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I have offers from Glasgow and Edinburgh. Glasgow is a BCC offer (B = Maths) for Civil Engineering, while Edinburgh is BBB offer for Civil and Environmental Engineering. I need to decide which one should be my first choice.
My Grandfather was a very successful Civil Engineer and he studied at Glasgow and has recomended it, as well as recommending not to specialise in environmental engineering as plain Civil Engineering that Glasgow are offering gives me more options. How ever I feel if this was really an issue I could change at Edinburgh.
2 of my best friends are going to Glasgow ( a year earlier than me) so this is another plus for Glasgow.
However, the offer from edinburgh is higher, and they are ranked as a better univerisity, which my maths teachers say is the most important thing as employers will look at that (reputation of uni). I am going to visit them both in Arpil, which should hopefully help. However what do you think based on this information. Baring in mind I should be able to meet both offers. Thanks, Also any opinions on each of the courses and the unis would be appreciated. Cheers
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I went to Glasgow. Put all thoughts of it being somehow 'second rate' to one side. I got AAA (which was very unexpected) back in the last year of 'proper' A-Levels. I deferred entry and got accepted to my top two choices (Glasgow and KCL). KCL wanted AAB for History I think, Glasgow at the time wanted BBC (though I note it is now ABB, what with the ludicrous grade inflation of recent years).

Glasgow is an excellent university, just named Scottish University of the Year. It's the in the Times top 100 of world universities (Edinburgh is conspicious by its abscence). It's in the Russel Group. I don't regret choosing it for a moment and I don't think employers will make a great distinction between Edinburgh and Glasgow. Once you discount the top Oxbridge band they both fall into the B group.

The question that should occupy you is do you want to live in Glasgow or Edinburgh. They're very different cities. I personally find Edinburgh a bit too stuffy, and certainly over-run with tourists and lots of 'Scottish' tat shops. Glasgow is rougher round the edges, but has a much more vibrant 'nightlife' and cultural scene. And the West End of Glasgow (where you will be living) is one of the nicest parts of any city on earth. Again, ragged round the edges in the student quaters, but full of life.

Glasgow University library is also second to none. If you are a serious academic type you could spend 100 lifetimes there and still only scratch the surface of its vast collection.
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I went to Glasgow. Put all thoughts of it being somehow 'second rate' to one side. I got AAA (which was very unexpected) back in the last year of 'proper' A-Levels. I deferred entry and got accepted to my top two choices (Glasgow and KCL). KCL wanted AAB for History I think, Glasgow at the time wanted BBC (though I note it is now ABB, what with the ludicrous grade inflation of recent years).

Glasgow is an excellent university, just named Scottish University of the Year. It's the in the Times top 100 of world universities (Edinburgh is conspicious by its abscence). It's in the Russel Group. I don't regret choosing it for a moment and I don't think employers will make a great distinction between Edinburgh and Glasgow. Once you discount the top Oxbridge band they both fall into the B group.

The question that should occupy you is do you want to live in Glasgow or Edinburgh. They're very different cities. I personally find Edinburgh a bit too stuffy, and certainly over-run with tourists and lots of 'Scottish' tat shops. Glasgow is rougher round the edges, but has a much more vibrant 'nightlife' and cultural scene. And the West End of Glasgow (where you will be living) is one of the nicest parts of any city on earth. Again, ragged round the edges in the student quaters, but full of life.

Glasgow University library is also second to none. If you are a serious academic type you could spend 100 lifetimes there and still only scratch the surface of its vast collection.

Actually, Edinburgh is 23rd in world rankings according to http://www.topuniversities.com/world..._universities/

It has also been ranked between 4th and 13th best in the country, depending on which league tables you read. Edinburgh is also the fourth best university in Europe, behind Oxbridge and ICL.

So I would definitely choose Edinburgh on academic reputation.
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Hmmm, yes, but according to many league tables Loughborough is in the top twenty (and often in the top ten!).

I mean really, some hefty bribes must be doing the rounds.
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Yes lol.

I wuld think, if you havent already done so, you really need to visit both Glasgow and Edinburgh universities. No point going there if you just dont 'feel' it to be right for you.
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I am in nearly the exact same position as you mowdizzle. I to have offers from both Edinburgh and Glasgow but have made my mind up to put Edinburgh as my first choice simply because the city is amazing and the facilities for my course look great. I am yet to visit Glasgow but will probably be putting it down as my second choice. There are good points for both unis. What swayed me was the facilities Edinburgh had and its reputation, although as people have said Glasgow is alot better for nightlife and entertainment as such. Depends really what your looking to get out of uni.

Plus, not sure how true this is but people at my Sixth Form believe Glasgow to be a really rough area. That put me off the city abit but I will make a decision when i visit. Good luck with yours!
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Plus, not sure how true this is but people at my Sixth Form believe Glasgow to be a really rough area.
I assume you're at an English 6th form?

So was I. I said I was going to Glasgow and people looked at my like I was insane. "Ooooh it's very rough" they would say "You won't be able to go outside". As if it was effing Beirut.

Of course, most of them (in fact, none of them) had been to Glasgow. I had, and told them that was *******s.

It is, of course. Glasgow is like any big city. There are really, really rough bits (that actually are like Beirut) but they're a long long way from the West End of the city and the University. Glasgow's West End has some of the highest house prices in the country (particularly in Hyndland). So there's really nothing to fear.

Massive influx of English students in the last two years. When I first went I spent 6 months without hearing an English voice (except my own). Now there are thousands of the *******s lining the streets. It's good to see that the tighest people in Britain are, in fact, affluent people from the South East fleeing the higher English fees.

Anyway, don't let some terrified falsetto pipings based on nothing but secondhand scare stories put you off Glasgow.
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I am in nearly the exact same position as you mowdizzle. I to have offers from both Edinburgh and Glasgow but have made my mind up to put Edinburgh as my first choice simply because the city is amazing and the facilities for my course look great. I am yet to visit Glasgow but will probably be putting it down as my second choice. There are good points for both unis. What swayed me was the facilities Edinburgh had and its reputation, although as people have said Glasgow is alot better for nightlife and entertainment as such. Depends really what your looking to get out of uni.

Plus, not sure how true this is but people at my Sixth Form believe Glasgow to be a really rough area. That put me off the city abit but I will make a decision when i visit. Good luck with yours!
I've lived in Glasgow all my life and it isn't noticable. Yeah there are occasionally people who think they're "hard" shouting things at you but it's not that bad. I find that the West End is great, my dad used to live there and I never had anyone say anything to me. People are just as likely to say stuff to you as they would be in any other area, you shouldn't let it put you off.
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Hmmm, yes, but according to many league tables Loughborough is in the top twenty (and often in the top ten!).

I mean really, some hefty bribes must be doing the rounds.
Thats down to student satisfaction. Loughbourgh score top marks every year. Thats what brings them up into the top 20/10.

Edinburgh is 5th in europe at the moment.

OP check with edinburgh of the possibility of taking civil engineering by itself. Edinburgh is very flexible with that type of stuff. Give em a ring or email, there always more than helpful to try sort things out. Just explain your situation, give them a good reason, don't just say I changed my mind, give a "educated" answer... eg. I spoken to people and I find that some of the modules that I won't be able to study are very intersting ect... and you should have a fighting chance of changing.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR RESPONCES, as I said Im visiting them in April (only 1 day though), so it should help me get a better idea.
Cheers
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Ok well I went to visit both unis. However I only managed to spend about an hr in Edinburgh and that was ALL in the civil engineering building speaking to a professor. The building seemed really nice and modern, and the professor I spoke to was really enthusiastic and pleasant (young too). BUT I didnt see any of the city apart from the drive to/from Glasgow. As for glasgow I saw more of the city, and I liked it, the people were nice and I liked how the University was all in one place. I didnt get to meet a professor, but I did visit the civil engineering building and it wasnt very nice, not as nice or modern as Edinburgh. Discovered one of my friends is actually going to Glasgow Caledonian and the other is going to Glasgow a year before me. Basically I still cant decide. I havnt seen Edinburgh but have heard its a really nice city.

Glasgow
PROS =
+ University buildings all close together and in city.
+ Too of my best Friends are going to Glasgow (the city anyway).
+ Really liked the city, apparently nightlife and culture is better than Edinburgh.
+Grandpa/Mum reccomends it.

CONS =
- Facilities, Civil Engineering buildings, older, less appealing.
- Ranked as worse university, academisally worse than Edinburgh???

Edinburgh
Pros =
+ City also really nice
+ Academically rated better
+ Facilities more modern etc

CONS=
-Living costs higher
-Confined to engineering buildings, smaller group of people.
-Maybe worse nightlife etc.

SOOOOOOOOOOO WHICH ONE?
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I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out Glasgow is rated higher for both civil and mechanical engineering than Edinburgh - The Times League table for Civil Engineering. As you can see, Glasgow has the same score for graduate prospects as Cambridge, whereas Edinburgh is in the bottom five for graduate prospects. They both have virtually the same entry standards and are both competitive being in the top ten for UCAS points, so despite the offer being lower from Glasgow the applicants generally have the same grades as Edinburgh anyway. Engineering has always been one of Glasgow's strong points - if I'm not mistaken Glasgow has the oldest engineering faculty in the UK. You seem more inclined towards Glasgow, but you favour Edinburgh for the academic reputation - assumedly due to job prospects. The job prospects for your course are a fair bit better at Glasgow, so clearly Edinburgh's "better reputation" doesn't really matter for your chosen subject.
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No problems with Edinburgh's nightlife as far as I've seen over the last year, and you get a taste of three disciplines (from Civil, Chemical, Mechanical and Electrical) in the first term so if one of the other's takes your fancy you can switch to it with relative ease. The teaching has been top-notch so far (mind I'm only doing Mech as an outside course).

Its not like you'll be spending much time at the KB with "all the science nerds", because you have lectures around everyone else at George Square in first year and can meet all kinds of amazing folk. I also like how, by living near the Royal Mile, I've got everything I could want at no more than a 10 minute walk.

Glasgow is a nice city no doubt but it always seems so large and bustling that Edinburgh was a better choice for me personally. Can't comment on it's Engineering departments though.
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I'm not going to deny that Edinburgh's a nice city - I went to school there for eight years, I know it like the back of my hand. But the nights out I've had in Glasgow have been absolutely brilliant - the atmosphere is just better and some of the pubs are fantastic. Can't wait to move.
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Thanks again for the responces, ive got until the 5th of May to decide. Thanks especially to Foxo, when I looked at league tables when I was making my five UCAS choices, i thought Edinburgh was higher, but obviously its not. I do think Im leaning more towards Glasgow now, but please keep your opinions coming. Thanks Alot.
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Oh, and hot off the press:

The Good University Guide

1 Oxford
2 Cambridge
3 London School of Economics
3 Imperial College
5 Warwick
6 Durham
7 St Andrews
8 University College London
9 SOAS
10 Lancaster
11 York
12 Leicester
13 Loughborough
14 Bath
15 King's College London
16 Nottingham
16 Bristol
16 Glasgow
19 Exeter
20 Southampton
21 Edinburgh
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The Good University Guide can bend over and take it.
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The Good University Guide can bend over and take it.
To be honest, I don't really agree with Edinburgh's position either - but that's not going to stop me from being a little smug about it.
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OK WELL I FINALLY DECIDED. I left it until the deadline day stupidly. I didnt get an email reply from glasgow concerning my questions, so I phoned a professor and asked hima few things. Generally the proffessor I spoke to at edinburgh was much nicer and more enthusiastic. Also the answers to my questions such as work placments?, working abroad?, investment? were all fairly depressing. So I have decided to put Edinburgh as MY firm and Glasgow as my insurance. THANK **** THATS OVER...for now.
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