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    Facebook is acting as a conduit for international lobbying organisations to influence the referendum on abortion in Ireland. The vote takes place tomorrow and the Facebook management had previously said they would block advertisers, but this supposed block is not working in practise.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...ion-referendum

    There is substantial evidence that Facebook affected the EU referendum vote and the US and UK general elections. In particular, the social media giant allows foreign intervention in our elections on a large scale.

    Is there now a case for switching Facebook off in the run-up to elections? Say, a month before the election takes place? Things seem to be serious enough now that something like this is required.
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    Such thing will never happen
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    (Original post by shameful_burrito)
    Such thing will never happen
    Assurances from Facebook executives have proven to be utterly untrustworthy. Therefore government action is now required.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Assurances from Facebook executives have proven to be utterly untrustworthy. Therefore government action is now required.
    It’s just unfeasable though. Facebook is a social media platform used by roughly 2 billion people. Many don’t care enough about the elections, they’re there for social reasons, or God knows what other reasons. If the government banned Facebook for a month prior to elections that would cause public outrage.
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    (Original post by shameful_burrito)
    It’s just unfeasable though. Facebook is a social media platform used by roughly 2 billion people. Many don’t care enough about the elections, they’re there for social reasons, or God knows what other reasons. If the government banned Facebook for a month prior to elections that would cause public outrage.
    It might have to in the end. The situation at present is that large scale spenders in Russia, China or even North Korea can, with the right ad agencies, radically alter the result of British elections. Anyone who finds that cool is engaged in self-delusion.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    It might have to in the end. The situation at present is that large scale spenders in Russia, China or even North Korea can, with the right ad agencies, radically alter the result of British elections. Anyone who finds that cool is engaged in self-delusion.
    It’s not a case of people finding it cool, but more so with many people not even caring enough.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Facebook is acting as a conduit for international lobbying organisations to influence the referendum on abortion in Ireland. The vote takes place tomorrow and the Facebook management had previously said they would block advertisers, but this supposed block is not working in practise.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...ion-referendum

    There is substantial evidence that Facebook affected the EU referendum vote and the US and UK general elections. In particular, the social media giant allows foreign intervention in our elections on a large scale.

    Is there now a case for switching Facebook off in the run-up to elections? Say, a month before the election takes place? Things seem to be serious enough now that something like this is required.
    What about the lying media, the Murdoch press and the other media barons lying to the british public? If you ban FB for influencing decisions, then you should ban all news outlets and newspapers for doing the same.

    Generally, you have to pick your battles. It is better to educate people on how to spot fake news whether on Social Media or traditional media.
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    let's switch off the telly while we're at it

    http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M3...mld5SaBxWwHaEX
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    What about the lying media, the Murdoch press and the other media barons lying to the british public? If you ban FB for influencing decisions, then you should ban all news outlets and newspapers for doing the same.

    Generally, you have to pick your battles. It is better to educate people on how to spot fake news whether on Social Media or traditional media.
    They at least come under the (toothless, but at least existent) press regulator and Ofcom rules. Facebook appear to be able to operate outside the laws of the United Kingdom and even the EU for all practical purposes.

    I basically agree, but the extent to which things can be done in a personalised, targeted and secretive manner on F/book is a new dimension in international electoral manipulation when compared to poor old Murdoch, who is increasingly looking like a monk scratching on parchment in the days just after Caxton started bulk printing bibles.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    let's switch off the telly while we're at it

    http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M3...mld5SaBxWwHaEX
    As long as they leave Netflix alone. :teehee:
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    Shutting down social media for a special interest group just won't fly, think how much commerce relies upon it daily? they won't put up with it, look how mental business owners go when told to close for a DAY for elections in some places?

    Sooner or later people have to take some blame for believing everything they read as opposed to blaming Facebook, 50 years ago it would have been talking about cutting off all the phone lines before elections to stop commie propaganda. Why should the UK Government get a monopoly on lying to us anyway when we get down to it?
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    (Original post by StriderHort)

    Sooner or later people have to take some blame for believing everything they read as opposed to blaming Facebook, 50 years ago it would have been talking about cutting off all the phone lines before elections to stop commie propaganda.
    All of these things are weighed against how bad the problem is. The UK cut phone lines to all foreign countries during WW2 for ordinary customers.
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    If people are stupid enough to fall for propaganda that's their problem. It doesnt mean creating a thought police state though.
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    Banning Facebook would be one of the most stupidest things ever. All of social media can influence elections so why they decide to only van Facebook than something like twitter where most politicians are active on shows that this is just useless projecting.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    They at least come under the (toothless, but at least existent) press regulator and Ofcom rules. Facebook appear to be able to operate outside the laws of the United Kingdom and even the EU for all practical purposes.

    I basically agree, but the extent to which things can be done in a personalised, targeted and secretive manner on F/book is a new dimension in international electoral manipulation when compared to poor old Murdoch, who is increasingly looking like a monk scratching on parchment in the days just after Caxton started bulk printing bibles.
    Education is better than prohibition. People love to be hysterical about everything. If Facebook is able to influence you to vote a particular way, then that is your problem.

    People are ignorant, but rather than teach them about politics and how to be effective citizens; we try to nanny them to oblivion.
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    (Original post by StriderHort)
    50 years ago it would have been talking about cutting off all the phone lines before elections to stop commie propaganda. Why should the UK Government get a monopoly on lying to us anyway when we get down to it?
    Good analogy, except that it is Facebook deciding what you do and don't see on its site, while 50 years ago the telephone network was peer-to-peer - at worst you'd have communist insurrectionists phoning people at random, the telephone network itself wouldn't have been responsible.
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    You're right, draining potentially billions of dollars from the economy sounds like a grand idea.

    As has been said, just educate people as to what's happening.
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    (Original post by Dheorl)
    You're right, draining potentially billions of dollars from the economy sounds like a grand idea.

    As has been said, just educate people as to what's happening.
    > dollars

    ?

    Facebook don't even pay much taxes. They employ barely any people in the UK.

    Serious businesses don't rely on Facebook to sell their stuff, it really wouldn't affect the economy unless people these days no longer know how to type anything other than "facebook.com" into their browser.
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    Nope.

    Given the choice of Facebook or elections, the vast majority would pick Facebook.


    As per, one of your suggestions is not so much veering, but diving headlong into full on fascism.
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    (Original post by AngeryPenguin)
    There is only so much you can educate people. Some people just will never be able to think for themselves.
    Then they should be responsible for their actions. We should stop this nanny-state mentality where people are victims by default, when some people are either ignorant or outright stupid. If someone voted for Trump or Brexit because Facebook told him, then who are we to tamper with such idiocy.
 
 
 
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