Do socialists believe that animals such as horses should be paid for the work they do? What minimum wage is recommended for a cart horse and should all horses get the same wage? Should a basic bank account for animals being a statutory requirement?
Should animals be allowed to own their own piece of land/shelter and being given an allowance for food and heating?
Their dna is in many cases almost the same as human beings' dna. they feel pain and emotions just as humans do, they communicate with each other and in the case of dogs, understand human language and gestures. Animals do useful work for other animals and for human beings, contributing to the economy and gdp.
In many cases, human beings who own propery are less intelligent than many animals.
While I tend to agree that animals cannot understand the legal concept of rights that humans have developed, it doesn't mean that they don't understand the concept of possession. We don't restrict rights to only those human beings who are able to pass a test that shows they understand the rights they have; I think that if we did that many people would fail, even though they are fully conscious.
There are many human beings who. although conscious, don't understand the legal concept of ownership, sometimes because of gross stupidity and sometimes because they are mentally ill, in a coma or suffering from senility.I think that if someone choses to leave their estate to their cat , dog, snake or canary, that animal should have its own bank account and should be able to access the wealth in the account to obtain the food it prefers or the accommodation it finds more preferable. Of course, this would require the services of a person to buy and present the food etc to the animal but the animal could indicate its preferences by barking etc and making gestural indications when alternative foods or places to live are supplied to it.
It's not clear to me why the libertarian conception of rights excludes animals. Can anyone elaborate on this? And I think we're on the wrong part of the forum. Perhaps we ought to take this to PT&P.