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    (Original post by PoGo HoPz)
    You might be, if you weren't such a Capitalistic, chauvinist pig.
    Ah damn, my capitalist values catch me out once again :sad:

    Socialists are chauvinist pigs too you know
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    If you agree that private companies should not exist and that all jobs are created by the state then it is the perfect party for you.
    Eh? There ate a variety of approaches in the socialists but I suspect the most sensible believe in nationalisation of core services and industries and the evacuation of the private sector from them but not universal eradication of the private sector. That would be folly.

    I have a question for the Socialist Party. What does your party offer to communists such as tehFrance and I who agree that all wealth should be distributed evenly?
    Haha.
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    Eh? There ate a variety of approaches in the socialists but I suspect the most sensible believe in nationalisation of core services and industries and the evacuation of the private sector from them but not universal eradication of the private sector. That would be folly.
    Then the party should be renamed 'The Mild Socialist Party' as you are not true socialists. I have another question, what is your preferred method of taxation? Income, land or sales tax? Also why have there been a significant lack of socialists bill proposals? I am yet to see any attempt to nationalise the water industry like your last manifesto promised.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    What does your party offer to communists such as tehFrance and I who agree that all wealth should be distributed evenly?
    Do not ever drag me into your useless crap.
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    Do not ever drag me into your useless crap.
    Of course comrade.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Then the party should be renamed 'The Mild Socialist Party' as you are not true socialists. I have another question, what is your preferred method of taxation? Income, land or sales tax? Also why have there been a significant lack of socialists bill proposals? I am yet to see any attempt to nationalise the water industry like your last manifesto promised.
    personally I prefer income and land taxes to sales taxes.

    their hasn't, we have proposed several bills this term, and we are discussing others, we will put them to the house as and when we as a party see fit to do so, frankly if it doesn't meet to your timetable that's your problem not our's. many things in our last manifesto have been discussed by the party at length and again the timetable for any such legislation is something that we as a party will decide based on what we see fit to do rather than to your impatience.
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    Then the party should be renamed 'The Mild Socialist Party' as you are not true socialists.
    This shows your lack of real understanding of socialism, especially in Britain. Do socialists believe in trains, electric, health and education run exclusively by the state? Yes. Do we believe that small time grocers and book sellers should be nationalised? No, that's folly. That doesn't equate to mild socialism, it simply means that private competes with mutualised and socialised forms. Imagine Waterstones run as a mutual not a private company and that's what you get. That is the socialist society I believe in any way.


    I have another question, what is your preferred method of taxation? Income, land or sales tax? Also why have there been a significant lack of socialists bill proposals? I am yet to see any attempt to nationalise the water industry like your last manifesto promised.
    My preferred version is on income but I do see the case for land too. Water ison its way but its complex - it's only in England that water is privatised anyway.
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    personally I prefer income and land taxes to sales taxes.

    their hasn't, we have proposed several bills this term, and we are discussing others, we will put them to the house as and when we as a party see fit to do so, frankly if it doesn't meet to your timetable that's your problem not our's. many things in our last manifesto have been discussed by the party at length and again the timetable for any such legislation is something that we as a party will decide based on what we see fit to do rather than to your impatience.
    You mean to say your party members are inactive are unwilling to actually write the bills? Stop hiding under unnecessary political excuses like "it is being discussed" or childish ones like "we do it when WE want to NOT when YOU want to TAKE THAT!". We both know if there is any discussion it is very rare and happened months ago and nothing came of it.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    This shows your lack of real understanding of socialism, especially in Britain. Do socialists believe in trains, electric, health and education run exclusively by the state? Yes. Do we believe that small time grocers and book sellers should be nationalised? No, that's folly. That doesn't equate to mild socialism, it simply means that private competes with mutualised and socialised forms. Imagine Waterstones run as a mutual not a private company and that's what you get. That is the socialist society I believe in any way.




    My preferred version is on income but I do see the case for land too. Water ison its way but its complex - it's only in England that water is privatised anyway.
    Why single out trains? Why do you want trains to be run by the state but not planes, cars, bicycles, helicopters, boats and all other forms of transport run by the state?
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    Why single out trains? Why do you want trains to be run by the state but not planes, cars, bicycles, helicopters, boats and all other forms of transport run by the state?
    Use your own brain rather than asking inane questions. Trains, buses and coaches are essential forms of mass transit necessary to everyday life. It's not socialist to nationalise bicycles for heaven's sake. Only in the dankest recesses of a dimwitted Tory is that ever the case.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Use your own brain rather than asking inane questions. Trains, buses and coaches are essential forms of mass transit necessary to everyday life. It's not socialist to nationalise bicycles for heaven's sake. Only in the dankest recesses of a dimwitted Tory is that ever the case.
    Why should train users be subsidised but not people that use planes and cars?
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    Why should train users be subsidised but not people that use planes and cars?
    It's not a subsidy, it is simply a state runcorporation which still needs to operate in the best interests of its user base. Planes are not essential to mass transit in this country. Cars are the competition for public mass transit and a barometer of success.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    You mean to say your party members are inactive are unwilling to actually write the bills? Stop hiding under unnecessary political excuses like "it is being discussed" or childish ones like "we do it when WE want to NOT when YOU want to TAKE THAT!". We both know if there is any discussion it is very rare and happened months ago and nothing came of it.
    you know what I am not even going to bother, you're a sad pathetic loser if this is all you have to do with your time, do us all a favour and go troll some other forums instead.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    You mean to say your party members are inactive are unwilling to actually write the bills? Stop hiding under unnecessary political excuses like "it is being discussed" or childish ones like "we do it when WE want to NOT when YOU want to TAKE THAT!". We both know if there is any discussion it is very rare and happened months ago and nothing came of it.
    Not at all - we've a couple of bills under draft, and had a couple set up to go that have had to be postponed indefinitely due to the JPKC saga - as he first proposed them and was still an independent MP, it would not be right for us to take those bills as our own.
    Our activity may have been slightly lower than some other parties, but we've put forward 4 or 5 bills this term - which is in line with the proposal put forth by the speaker at the beginning of the term to get out at least 1 bill per month.
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    Not at all - we've a couple of bills under draft, and had a couple set up to go that have had to be postponed indefinitely due to the JPKC saga - as he first proposed them and was still an independent MP, it would not be right for us to take those bills as our own.
    Our activity may have been slightly lower than some other parties, but we've put forward 4 or 5 bills this term - which is in line with the proposal put forth by the speaker at the beginning of the term to get out at least 1 bill per month.
    I have submitted more bills/motions than your entire party combined this term.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    I have submitted more bills/motions than your entire party combined this term.
    Oh yes, I forgot that the Model House of Commons is the most important thing in the world. :rolleyes:
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    Oh yes, I forgot that the Model House of Commons is the most important thing in the world. :rolleyes:
    It is, I would give up sex for the MHoC... :awesome: :rofl:
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    It is, I would give up sex for the MHoC... :awesome: :rofl:
    That, I doubt very much. :sly:
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    I have submitted more bills/motions than your entire party combined this term.
    You've done three crappy one-line troll bills, compared to a Socialist total of seven detailed bills.
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    (Original post by PoGo HoPz)
    You might be, if you weren't such a Capitalistic, chauvinist pig.
    Coming back to this... if I combined my Capitalist ideals with Socialist social policies and I don't know, create Scandinavia, would I be allowed to join then? :holmes:
 
 
 
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