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(Original post by United1892)
Corrected it for you
oh very droll
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Could you see yourselves doing any sort of deal with TSR Labour, given the current Liberal-related trouble we've been having?
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What do the socialists think of todays budget?
It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, but that about as positive as I can be.
The "living wage" mentioned isn't a living wage.
Piling more loans onto students, 75% of which wont be able to pay them back, is just stupid.
Completely ignored the issue of climate change.
Cutting tax credits for large families on low incomes is going to be devastating.
Cutting housing benefit at the same time that rents are rapidly increasing in the private sector is just complete buffoonery.
The cost of funding free TV licences for the over-75s being transferred from the government to the BBC between 2018 and 2021 is a political masterpiece, but deeply unfair on the Beeb as it wasn't their choice to give pensioners free TV licenses, yet the Beeb can't be harsh enough to deny pensioners the TV. Highly unethical politics right there.

overall, it's clear that the Tories are ruthless, but I'd argue that they are also incompetent, at the moment they are also selling off our assets that we, the taxpayer, paid for, for a knock down rate, purposefully making a loss. Those are not the actions of someone that wants to get this country out of debt, those are the actions of someone who wants to make his mate a few quid on the back of the taxpayer.
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Could you see yourselves doing any sort of deal with TSR Labour, given the current Liberal-related trouble we've been having?
It depends on the nature of the deal, I am aware that TSR Labour are in a "desperate" (for want of a better word) position right now, so anything that's suggested is taken with a pinch of salt.
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I think it's possibly also worth remembering that the budget could've been a lot worse. When you hear the words 'Conservative majority government', images of the return of workhouses, poor people forced to do all sorts of degrading things before they're given 20p benefits on which they're supposed to last for a week, and a giant projection of the Rees-Mogg family in fits of cruel laughter over London.
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I think it's possibly also worth remembering that the budget could've been a lot worse. When you hear the words 'Conservative majority government', images of the return of workhouses, poor people forced to do all sorts of degrading things before they're given 20p benefits on which they're supposed to last for a week, and a giant projection of the Rees-Mogg family in fits of cruel laughter over London.
Do you really think the Conservatives are that bad?
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Do you really think the Conservatives are that bad?
I had kind of hoped that it'd be obvious I was taking the mick a little bit. I mean, I'm serious about it not being as bad as it could've been but I don't think that projections of the Rees-Moggs are likely even if Gideon ends up being the next Tory leader.
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I had kind of hoped that it'd be obvious I was taking the mick a little bit. I mean, I'm serious about it not being as bad as it could've been but I don't think that projections of the Rees-Moggs are likely even if Gideon ends up being the next Tory leader.
I know you were joking. I was more wondering if you thought the budget was going to be worse than that?
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(Original post by thehistorybore)
I know you were joking. I was more wondering if you thought the budget was going to be worse than that?
Frankly, yes. I don't like it one bit but perhaps we overestimated the amount that the Lib Dems constrained the Tories.
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(Original post by James Milibanter)
It depends on the nature of the deal, I am aware that TSR Labour are in a "desperate" (for want of a better word) position right now, so anything that's suggested is taken with a pinch of salt.
*Raises eyebrow* you mean you think you can bleed us dry?
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Frankly, yes. I don't like it one bit but perhaps we overestimated the amount that the Lib Dems constrained the Tories.
We're not as bad as you think.
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(Original post by Paladian)
What do the socialists think of todays budget?
Not as big a disaster as I had feared, although the attacks on young people within it (no housing benefit for 18-21s, the move to the youth obligation scheme and the new minimum wage being thoroughly unsatisfactory (for london it's still below the living wage) and only applying to those 25+) disgusts me. It's a symptom of the tory party being, in the main, completely cut off from reality and refusing to acknowledge that not every child is lucky enough to have a stable home life with loving parents who can afford to support them.

(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
Could you see yourselves doing any sort of deal with TSR Labour, given the current Liberal-related trouble we've been having?
Very much depends on what Labour are willing to offer. I think most of the party would agree with me in saying that we have no intentions just to rush into government for the sake of being in.
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What are your views on inherited wealth and public schools?
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Do you believe that the car industry should be in public ownership or was Thatcher right to sell British Leyland.
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Do you believe that the car industry should be in public ownership or was Thatcher right to sell British Leyland.
She did the right thing, British Leyland was dire.
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She did the right thing, British Leyland was dire.
Ever driven an Austin Princess? That's a good enough reason to go in for privatisation.
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Ever driven an Austin Princess? That's a good enough reason to go in for privatisation.
The stories I've heard from people who worked in the factories during the time are fascinating. Comparing the process from back then to now is enlightening; a panel can be scrapped now if there is a tiny pimple in it, but back in the day...
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The stories I've heard from people who worked in the factories during the time are fascinating. Comparing the process from back then to now is enlightening; a panel can be scrapped now if there is a tiny pimple in it, but back in the day...
(Original post by thehistorybore)
Ever driven an Austin Princess? That's a good enough reason to go in for privatisation.
This sums up my understanding of British automobile industry from around that era: https://youtu.be/bwoHmubxDIg?t=1m10s (1:10)
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This sums up my understanding of British automobile industry from around that era: https://youtu.be/bwoHmubxDIg?t=1m10s (1:10)
Very apt.

This challenge was also good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7q8lWEd-o

The cars were that bad, the bad thing is that some of the machinery that made those cars in the video is still being used today to mass produce vehicles.
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The stories I've heard from people who worked in the factories during the time are fascinating. Comparing the process from back then to now is enlightening; a panel can be scrapped now if there is a tiny pimple in it, but back in the day...
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This sums up my understanding of British automobile industry from around that era: https://youtu.be/bwoHmubxDIg?t=1m10s (1:10)
It was not a good time for British motoring prowess.
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