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DMcGovern - the link is broken.
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DMcGovern - the link is broken.
That should work now
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That should work now
This is good.
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" One of the consequences of this U-turn has beento allow Tory Eurosceptics and the far right UKIPto dominate the “Out” campaign " UKIP are not far right
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" One of the consequences of this U-turn has beento allow Tory Eurosceptics and the far right UKIPto dominate the “Out” campaign " UKIP are not far right
Although describing itself as a libertarian party, academic political scientists have instead characterised UKIP's ideological approach as being that of right-wing populism, also identifying it as part of the broader European radical right.
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Free movement is a fundamentally socialist and egalitarian idea.

Energy and rail can be partially nationalised with companies who can give consumers better prices getting the franchise. Royal Mail can be re-nationalised today.

Currently the EU is looking to block TTIP with the UK supporting it so TTIP-esque retationship is more likely out of the EU.

Who is to say that Greece, Spain and Italy wouldn't be in the same position or worse if they hadn't joined? That's a poor post hoc ergo procter hoc argument.

To suggest that an out vote would cause a general election is farcical at best. I would like to point out the fixed term parliament act.

Very poor argument DMcGovern
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I didn't realise Quamquam123 was on the Socialists too, or was he just a guest writer?
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Free movement is a fundamentally socialist and egalitarian idea.

Energy and rail can be partially nationalised with companies who can give consumers better prices getting the franchise. Royal Mail can be re-nationalised today.

Currently the EU is looking to block TTIP with the UK supporting it so TTIP-esque retationship is more likely out of the EU.

Who is to say that Greece, Spain and Italy wouldn't be in the same position or worse if they hadn't joined? That's a poor post hoc ergo procter hoc argument.

To suggest that an out vote would cause a general election is farcical at best. I would like to point out the fixed term parliament act.

Very poor argument DMcGovern
Although free movement appears as a socialist policy in the EU, when stripped of its ideological mask, open borders are designed principally to, on the one hand, help big business to circumvent existing workers’ rights through the use of underpaid migrant labour, on the other, to provide the super-rich with easy access to foreign markets.

The EU report concerning the Posted Workers Directive states that “Member States shall… guarantee workers posted to their territory the terms and conditions of employment… which, in the Member State where the work is carried out, are laid down… by law, regulation or administrative provision.” Amongst other things, these regulations concern maximum work periods and minimum rest periods; minimum paid annual holidays; and the minimum rates of pay, including overtime rates.



In 2013, the Rail, Maritime, and Transport (RMT) Union described the Fourth Rail Package in plain English as a “set of regulations… that aims to impose privatisation on domestic rail passenger services in every EU member state.” They continue:

“Currently, on the whole, every EU state has the freedom to choose which way it wants to run its passenger rail services. These measures will remove that freedom, imposing a model of fragmentation and privatisation that has been an abject failure in the UK.”
Under the auspices of this package, we have already seen East Coast Rail, one of the most profitable nationalised rail lines in the country, being sold off to Virgin Trains.

Most recently, the privatization of Royal Mail was carried through with the backing of EU Directive 2008/6/EC, which called for the postal sector to be fully open to competition by 31 December 2012.


Although some on the left have argued that the Tories could independently broker such a deal if we were to come out of the EU, it would undoubtedly be easier to pass this deal off if we remain within the EU. The reason for this is the abject lack of democracy within the structure of the EU.
Moreover, Obama has threatened that the UK would be "at the back of the queue" for TTIP if they left the EU.


Greek, Spanish, and Italian workers have seen their living standards smashed mercilessly since the onset of the 2008 recession; and Irish workers have been subjected to draconian water charges as well as massive cuts to public services, is absurd. Far from protecting workers from these austerity measures, the EU, alongside the unelected European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund, has played a leading role in ensuring that they are implemented.


Moreover, having borrowed far too much after joining the eurozone in 2001, the Greek government let their citizens down when adjustments and reforms were needed after the 2008 global financial crisis. An initial phase of denial was followed by commitments that could not be met, causing the crisis. These failures by the government would not have been as bad if they had not been forced to join the single currency.
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I didn't realise Quamquam123 was on the Socialists too, or was he just a guest writer?
Guest writer - as we mentioned at the end we welcome any fellow left-winger to contribute to the paper

And there's always centre-left to far-righties we'll welcome in the Opposition Corner
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Although free movement appears as a socialist policy in the EU, when stripped of its ideological mask, open borders are designed principally to, on the one hand, help big business to circumvent existing workers’ rights through the use of underpaid migrant labour, on the other, to provide the super-rich with easy access to foreign markets.
or it is about saying that everyone is equal and no one should be disadvantaged based on where they are born... and you know we have a minimum wage right?

The EU report concerning the Posted Workers Directive states that “Member States shall… guarantee workers posted to their territory the terms and conditions of employment… which, in the Member State where the work is carried out, are laid down… by law, regulation or administrative provision.” Amongst other things, these regulations concern maximum work periods and minimum rest periods; minimum paid annual holidays; and the minimum rates of pay, including overtime rates.
point?



In 2013, the Rail, Maritime, and Transport (RMT) Union described the Fourth Rail Package in plain English as a “set of regulations… that aims to impose privatisation on domestic rail passenger services in every EU member state.” They continue:

“Currently, on the whole, every EU state has the freedom to choose which way it wants to run its passenger rail services. These measures will remove that freedom, imposing a model of fragmentation and privatisation that has been an abject failure in the UK.”
Under the auspices of this package, we have already seen East Coast Rail, one of the most profitable nationalised rail lines in the country, being sold off to Virgin Trains.

Most recently, the privatization of Royal Mail was carried through with the backing of EU Directive 2008/6/EC, which called for the postal sector to be fully open to competition by 31 December 2012.
none of this prevents the government setting up a public run company to compete and win the franchises when they do better then the private alternative...


Although some on the left have argued that the Tories could independently broker such a deal if we were to come out of the EU, it would undoubtedly be easier to pass this deal off if we remain within the EU. The reason for this is the abject lack of democracy within the structure of the EU.
Moreover, Obama has threatened that the UK would be "at the back of the queue" for TTIP if they left the EU.
Except that it won't because France is blocking TTIP whilst the threat to health services remain. and the EU is democratic...


Greek, Spanish, and Italian workers have seen their living standards smashed mercilessly since the onset of the 2008 recession; and Irish workers have been subjected to draconian water charges as well as massive cuts to public services, is absurd. Far from protecting workers from these austerity measures, the EU, alongside the unelected European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund, has played a leading role in ensuring that they are implemented.
the commission is indirectly elected... and you seem to be requiring perfection. also, the IMF has nothing to do with the EU and post hoc ergo procter hoc again...


Moreover, having borrowed far too much after joining the eurozone in 2001, the Greek government let their citizens down when adjustments and reforms were needed after the 2008 global financial crisis. An initial phase of denial was followed by commitments that could not be met, causing the crisis. These failures by the government would not have been as bad if they had not been forced to join the single currency.
They weren't forced, as I understand it they persuded it
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I am quite frankly disgusted.

Leadership, sorry, a Commissar has previously told me how the Commissar team are as equal as everyone else in the Party, and how there is no hierarchy within the Party. However, how can this be the case, when it's the Commissars who have chosen the music/record/whatever for this article... this is all a bunch of lies, and I would be extremely surprised if all Commissars did not step down immediately in shame.

(if anyone knows who the hell the commissars are, please do tag them in! - I mean, they're irrelevant as the rest of the Party, right?!)
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I am quite frankly disgusted.

Leadership, sorry, a Commissar has previously told me how the Commissar team are as equal as everyone else in the Party, and how there is no hierarchy within the Party. However, how can this be the case, when it's the Commissars who have chosen the music/record/whatever for this article... this is all a bunch of lies, and I would be extremely surprised if all Commissars did not step down immediately in shame.

(if anyone knows who the hell the commissars are, please do tag them in! - I mean, they're irrelevant as the rest of the Party, right?!)
No.
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I am quite frankly disgusted.

Leadership, sorry, a Commissar has previously told me how the Commissar team are as equal as everyone else in the Party, and how there is no hierarchy within the Party. However, how can this be the case, when it's the Commissars who have chosen the music/record/whatever for this article... this is all a bunch of lies, and I would be extremely surprised if all Commissars did not step down immediately in shame.

(if anyone knows who the hell the commissars are, please do tag them in! - I mean, they're irrelevant as the rest of the Party, right?!)
lolwut

the internal structure of our party is of no concern to you.
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lolwut

the internal structure of our party is of no concern to you.
Actually it is. Extremely important for the preparations of my hostile takeover.
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Actually it is. Extremely important for the preparations of my hostile takeover.
Comrade Mobbsy.
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Comrade Mobbsy.
Hello comrade. Welcome
To my ransk
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I am quite frankly disgusted.

Leadership, sorry, a Commissar has previously told me how the Commissar team are as equal as everyone else in the Party, and how there is no hierarchy within the Party. However, how can this be the case, when it's the Commissars who have chosen the music/record/whatever for this article... this is all a bunch of lies, and I would be extremely surprised if all Commissars did not step down immediately in shame.

(if anyone knows who the hell the commissars are, please do tag them in! - I mean, they're irrelevant as the rest of the Party, right?!)
You say this like we don't debate everything we do endlessly in our subforum.

Just because why not, here are the Commissars.

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I am quite frankly disgusted.

Leadership, sorry, a Commissar has previously told me how the Commissar team are as equal as everyone else in the Party, and how there is no hierarchy within the Party. However, how can this be the case, when it's the Commissars who have chosen the music/record/whatever for this article... this is all a bunch of lies, and I would be extremely surprised if all Commissars did not step down immediately in shame.

(if anyone knows who the hell the commissars are, please do tag them in! - I mean, they're irrelevant as the rest of the Party, right?!)
Did you know that I thought you were in UKIP until I saw your Tory signature?

That's how irrelevant you are - which calls to question your accusations of our party being irrelevant. As well as the fact that we are one of the largest parties in the Parliament.

The Commissars are simply figureheads who carry out admin and are mainly the most active members.

Tories don't have a monthly organ = #Jealous
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Did you know that I thought you were in UKIP until I saw your Tory signature?

That's how irrelevant you are - which calls to question your accusations of our party being irrelevant. As well as the fact that we are one of the largest parties in the Parliament.

The Commissars are simply figureheads who carry out admin and are mainly the most active members.

Tories don't have a monthly organ = #Jealous
In all fairness, not knowing mobbsy is the Tory DL says just as much about you as it does him


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