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    (Original post by Jace Falco)
    Maybe, but this is something you Tories seem to go on about sometimes.
    Whenever I post something that has :p: at the end means its a joke.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Can I ask the Socialist Party what their opinions are on the Laughable bill presented before the house by Paperclip
    I think it's hardly laughable when the voting for it's not been too shabby.

    Okay, there are a few errors lib pointed out but it is my first bill tbh.

    Anyway, each socialist is seeing this bill differently as is represented in the voting.
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    What are the Socialists' opinions on the Quango wastage within Government? Solely on Quangos and Agencies, £63bn was spent in 07.

    This includes such important Quango's as the "British Potato Council", the "British Wool Marketing Board", "Forest Research" oh and the "National Weights and Measures Laboratory".

    ?:cookie:
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    (Original post by Jace Falco)
    That's really not true. On many levels.

    If you'd ever met Grape, you'd know he's hardly the alpha-male sort, offence meant there, Grape.
    I'm really not. I like arguments, but (most of the time) I hate conflict. Unless someone has done something to particularly irk me, you'll find that most of the time I attack an idea or a statement, not the person.

    And we most certainly do not join in with him. If he raises a good point, others will follow, sure, but isn't that, sort of, common sense? And none of us are quite as abrasive as he is (not that I see that as a bad thing in him, necessarily).

    Would you care to give an example of this **** you've cooked up?
    Tbh, it's not our fault that I'm right almost all the time. :confused:
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    I think it's hardly laughable when the voting for it's not been too shabby.

    Okay, there are a few errors lib pointed out but it is my first bill tbh.

    Anyway, each socialist is seeing this bill differently as is represented in the voting.
    On point 1; Yes, but - its still behind.

    On point 2; Dont use that as an excuse

    On point 3; - Really, seems pretty consistent to me
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    On point 1; Yes, but - its still behind.

    On point 2; Dont use that as an excuse

    On point 3; - Really, seems pretty consistent to me
    1) Then i guess your licencing bill was equally a joke

    2) Why not? Look through the HOC, all the older bills had errors. We are students afterall and whilst trying to do our best one cannot be perfect.

    3) Fair enough, i assumed a few of them were still against it as i was getting that vibe from them earlier on.
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    Matt - the Socialists have no official position on Paperclip's bill. This isn't the place to discuss it.
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    And hold on a minute - re: point 3, I've just looked at the voting, and 5 Socialists have voted for the bill, 4 have abstained, one's banned and the other's yet to vote. Hardly 'consistent' with anything other than some of us agree with it, some of us don't...
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    (Original post by Alasdair)
    And hold on a minute - re: point 3, I've just looked at the voting, and 5 Socialists have voted for the bill, 4 have abstained, one's banned and the other's yet to vote. Hardly 'consistent' with anything other than some of us agree with it, some of us don't...
    So you're admitting that the Socialist's are split on this. - I said it was consistent when I checked by, 6 members of the Socialist Party are in favour, and 2 abstained, - thats about 1 hour ago, so where your coming from.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    So you're admitting that the Socialist's are split on this. - I said it was consistent when I checked by, 6 members of the Socialist Party are in favour, and 2 abstained, - thats about 1 hour ago, so where your coming from.
    You're about as pedantic but nowhere near as articulate as UniOfLife. Please stop with the impersonations, he's not a good role model!
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    I looked, there are currently 6 in favour, 0 voted no and there were 4 abstained. to me this isn't that split, in fact it seems those who are not in favour are choosing to abstain rather than vote no.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    1) Then i guess your licencing bill was equally a joke

    2) Why not? Look through the HOC, all the older bills had errors. We are students afterall and whilst trying to do our best one cannot be perfect.

    3) Fair enough, i assumed a few of them were still against it as i was getting that vibe from them earlier on.
    1) No, unlike the Socialists we sought to protect younger adults, our Licencing bill would have meant younger adults, 16 and 17 year olds would have been protected within their safety of a public house, Remembering that only inside the Public House, not anywhere else. I'm surprised that the protection of young citizens, the future of our democracy isnt paramount in the Socialist agenda

    2) If its not a belief that its perfect then why submit it. The thing is that you conscienciously ignored two key features and came up with the feeble "Its been submitted now" line. -

    3) Two answers, I put it to the entire party that the Socialists are split
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    (Original post by Alasdair)
    Matt - the Socialists have no official position on Paperclip's bill. This isn't the place to discuss it.
    Oh aye, just wash your hands of it - and why not, Paperclips a socialist isnt he? - And your party seemed to just attack one of our members purely on the PMQ's thread
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Oh aye, just wash your hands of it - and why not, Paperclips a socialist isnt he? - And your party seemed to just attack one of our members purely on the PMQ's thread
    Paperclips bill has nothing to do with the fact that he is a socialist. It was a Private members bill. While some of there conduct was predatory towards one member, they were debating something relevant.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    You're about as pedantic but nowhere near as articulate as UniOfLife. Please stop with the impersonations, he's not a good role model!

    Nick

    How am I being?

    I'm merely making the observations how I see them. - The member who's name is attached with the bill claimed almost that their was opposition to the party, and yet 75% of the members of the Socialist party were voting yes at the time. - I wouldnt have claimed that that meant there was a split, - then Alisdair gets very defensive giving me the details of who can and who cannot vote. - From what I could see, no-one was opposed, but soon as I approach the Socialist party on this, Alisdair was first one to wash his hands of the bill.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Paperclips bill has nothing to do with the fact that he is a socialist. It was a Private members bill. While some of there conduct was predatory towards one member, they were debating something relevant.
    How isnt this relevant?, so you justify bullying members of the government as relevant to government policy? (See whether that opinion changes if you get back into power)

    I admit that Paperclip has put forward a PMB - but it was him who put the first seeds that the socialists were split on the issue, and thats the thing I wanted to address
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Oh aye, just wash your hands of it - and why not, Paperclips a socialist isnt he? - And your party seemed to just attack one of our members purely on the PMQ's thread
    Your party appointed him Chancellor. Paperclip's bill has no formal connection with the Socialist party. Now, what's your point again?
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    This place becomes more like a youtube comment thread every day.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    How isnt this relevant?, so you justify bullying members of the government as relevant to government policy? (See whether that opinion changes if you get back into power)
    As I said, that was predatory. But they were making accusations about a senior member of government. That should not be oppressed, despite me not liking the way they went about it.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Nick

    How am I being?

    I'm merely making the observations how I see them. - The member who's name is attached with the bill claimed almost that their was opposition to the party, and yet 75% of the members of the Socialist party were voting yes at the time. - I wouldnt have claimed that that meant there was a split, - then Alisdair gets very defensive giving me the details of who can and who cannot vote. - From what I could see, no-one was opposed, but soon as I approach the Socialist party on this, Alisdair was first one to wash his hands of the bill.
    What do you mean who can and cannot vote? I wasn't being defensive, just pointing out that a) it's got nothing formally to do with the Socialist party, and b) each of our MPs is voting as they like on it. Hardly the scandal of the century.

    Now, do you have any more nonsense issues to bring up?
 
 
 
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