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    Also if you're arguing that the fact that Venezuela has a pegged currency is causing its problems, you might do well to also argue that North Korea is the guarantor of world peace as long as we're arguing in favor of the opposite of what's actually happening.
    Its poor currency management and heavy reliance on the oil markets have been the driving factors in Venezuela's crisis.

    Not sure what North Korea has to do with this, what with it being an ethno-nationalist kleptocracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
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    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
    No of course not, we lefties are hypocritical. When we become rich we turn into Tories.
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    No of course not, We lefties are hypocritical. When we become rich we turn into Tories.
    Typical :dry: then why tax the rich more, no point really?
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
    most communists are very rich, but they don't handle the money, their parents do.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
    Personally I would, yes. Firstly, I believe it extraordinarily rare for someone to become rich based entirely on their own merit. Sometimes, it is the result of luck, be it through inheritance, gambling of some form or other wise. In those cases, it is absolutely moral for that wealth to be shared with society. More commonly, it is the result of a highly successful business endeavour. In those cases, the business is and has been reliant on its workers to become successful - workers for whom education, healthcare, pensions, security and a whole host of other crucial services without which they would be far less productive to the business are provided by the state. I have no issue with the business owner who has benefited so handsomely if indirectly from those services making a large contribution to them, and would not begrudge it if I were in that position.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Typical :dry: then why tax the rich more, no point really?
    Because until joining the rich the rich are the source of all problems

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    What is your policy on trident?
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    What is your policy on trident?
    AFAIK we are fairly divided on it.
    Me, myself some what support it in that I see it works as a deterrent but also think the 'we won't disarm until you do' attitude will just lead to all countries having nukes which clearly isn't a good thing.
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    What is your policy on trident?
    What Aph said above - there's a variety of views within the party.

    My personal opinion is that nuclear weapons are a bad thing, but we shouldn't get rid of them unilaterally as that would put us at a military disadvantage. We should instead use diplomatic channels to push for an international disarmament conference.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    AFAIK we are fairly divided on it.
    Me, myself some what support it in that I see it works as a deterrent but also think the 'we won't disarm until you do' attitude will just lead to all countries having nukes which clearly isn't a good thing.
    Nukes are just something to pass the time until we develop something better or a way to counteract with guarantee (targeted emp ECT.. ) at which point we will have sufficient advantage to bring order to chaos without reproach.

    A predator does not seek to simply coexist, he aspires to become the apex (again in our case). The political class especially is full of predators.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
    In that very unlikely event, due to the fact that those in the ruling class are there by accident of birth rather than purely their own merit, I would in fact be willing to be taxed more, and would spend money to get the revolutionary message into as many homes as possible.

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    most communists are very rich, but they don't handle the money, their parents do.
    Despite your naive assumption, which was more likely a puerile jab at the far-left, the majority of communists, especially Leninists, aren't young at all, rather middle-aged or older activists holding jobs with long hours and poor pay.

    Don't worry, they just need to work harder, right?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    In that very unlikely event, due to the fact that those in the ruling class are there by accident of birth rather than purely their own merit, I would in fact be willing to be taxed more, and would spend money to get the revolutionary message into as many homes as possible.



    Despite your naive assumption, which was more likely a puerile jab at the far-left, the majority of communists, especially Leninists, aren't young at all, rather middle-aged or older activists holding jobs with long hours and poor pay.

    Don't worry, they just need to work harder, right?
    The hours can't be that long considering how they spend most their days sitting on the internet quoting Lenin or Marx as an authorative source. The fact that they fall for communism, shows that they don't have the critical thinking required to survive in a capitalist world, no amount of hard work is going to better that.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    In that very unlikely event, due to the fact that those in the ruling class are there by accident of birth rather than purely their own merit, I would in fact be willing to be taxed more, and would spend money to get the revolutionary message into as many homes as possible.



    Despite your naive assumption, which was more likely a puerile jab at the far-left, the majority of communists, especially Leninists, aren't young at all, rather middle-aged or older activists holding jobs with long hours and poor pay.

    Don't worry, they just need to work harder, right?
    Middle class
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    Middle class
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    Where did I say 'middle class'?
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    If you guys become millionaires, would you happy for the state to take most of your income in taxes? In fact would you still then be willing to tax the rich more? :holmes:
    Assuming the tax was being used for the public/societal greater good, yes, of course. In fact, if I do become rich and I consider the government to be spending tax money wisely, I may even pay extra.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Assuming the tax was being used for the public/societal greater good, yes, of course. In fact, if I do become rich and I consider the government to be spending tax money wisely, I may even pay extra.
    It is clear mr T 999 was asking the question with the government of today doing the things the government of today is doing. If you were wealthy today, would you volunteer to pay more tax to help the deficit shrink knowing what your tax will be spent on?
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    It is mr T 999 was asking the question with the government of today doing the things the government of today is doing. If you were wealthy today, would you volunteer to pay more tax to help the deficit shrink knowing what your tax will be spent on?
    I would have to think about it, but yes, I likely would, as the more tax revenue the Tories get with which to plug the deficit, the less excuse they have for their austerity cuts to the health service, disability benefits, policing, social care and other areas which have a real impact on people's lives.
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    I am a libertarian Marxist looking to join the socialist party.
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    I am a libertarian Marxist looking to join the socialist party.
    Left-Libertarian is an oxymoron, comrade.
 
 
 
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