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Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Well, when we've repeatedly made clear that that's not the case, I guess it just reflects badly on the reading comprehension of some other members when they persist in such mistaken assumptions.
Regarding the release of your constitution, If you wish to release it do it, I personally dont think Owen should release it since he's not a Socialist party member anymore. But where other than this morning have you made anything the case? What happens if you lot win in April-May? - Who gets the top job, who gets the second job? Rhetorical questions you will need to consider when the time comes right
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Really? Llamaa voted against... So if that counts as 'united', we're more 'united' on the PMB than you were on that bill, as none of our MPs have voted against.

I know it sounds like verbal acrobatics, and it is - but that's because I don't accept the premise of the question...

EDIT: Incidentally, 9000th post. :woo:
Now Alisdair, look at post two, - Llamaa states that she voted in error and during the past week Owen himself said he was unable to change votes after the closure of polls. - Thats the reason she's in the Noe column.
Alasdair
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(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
What happens if you lot win in April-May? - Who gets the top job, who gets the second job? Rhetorical questions you will need to consider when the time comes right
Why thank you for telling me that. I was, surprisingly enough, not aware of the fact that there's usually a Prime Minister in a government, what with having held my seat in this house since you were doing GCSE's...
Alasdair
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(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Now Alisdair, look at post two, - Llamaa states that she voted in error and during the past week Owen himself said he was unable to change votes after the closure of polls. - Thats the reason she's in the Noe column.
Fair enough. I still don't accept the premise of your question.

EDIT: I could still ask whether your party was 'split' on the Drugs bill...
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Why thank you for telling me that. I was, surprisingly enough, not aware of the fact that there's usually a Prime Minister in a government, what with having held my seat in this house since you were doing GCSE's...
No what I am asking is how a Socialist adminisration would end up working. You came pretty close last time. - With no appearing structure in the Socialist Party I'd ask how would it work
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Fair enough. I still don't accept the premise of your question.

EDIT: I could still ask whether your party was 'split' on the Drugs bill...
Point 1 - I'll leave for now since I dont think we'll ever get to agreement on that one

Point 2 - :p: (holds hands up)
Alasdair
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(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
No what I am asking is how a Socialist adminisration would end up working. You came pretty close last time. - With no appearing structure in the Socialist Party I'd ask how would it work
Well, off the top of my head, we'd abolish the positions of Prime Minister, Queen and House of Lords, transfer its responsibilites on to the Supreme Soviet of the British People, and shoot all Tories on the Terrace of the Palace of Westminster...
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Well, off the top of my head, we'd abolish the positions of Prime Minister, Queen and House of Lords, transfer its responsibilites on to the Supreme Soviet of the British People, and shoot all Tories on the Terrace of the Palace of Westminster...

Okay, just give me a shout when I need to emigrate
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Really? Llamaa voted against... So if that counts as 'united', we're more 'united' on the PMB than you were on that bill, as none of our MPs have voted against.

I know it sounds like verbal acrobatics, and it is - but that's because I don't accept the premise of the question...

EDIT: Incidentally, 9000th post. :woo:
Just to confirm, Llamaaa did indeed vote in error.

(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Regarding the release of your constitution, If you wish to release it do it, I personally dont think Owen should release it since he's not a Socialist party member anymore. But where other than this morning have you made anything the case? What happens if you lot win in April-May? - Who gets the top job, who gets the second job? Rhetorical questions you will need to consider when the time comes right
Well I wrote the damn thing, it's my property. However, I'll not release it of my own accord if my old party does not wish it to be released. It isn't very interesting anyway and Alasdair is right that it would just end up being nitpicked, which would be tiresome and embarrassing for me.

And we did consider those rhetorical questions when the results came out, deciding on various measures that would solve said dilemmas.

With regards Dayne, if you read through this thread you will find much of this explained. If you have a problem with behaviour of our MP's then PM Jace. The speaker PM's Grape to enquire about bills. If you wish to make an enquiry about a coalition or similar then PM Alasdair, who will then post it for the whole party to consider, as I did with the Tory coalition offer.
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davireland
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(Original post by Grape190190)
That would be me. To outline the system:

Alasdair accepts new users on behalf of the party and send out the mass PMs.

I clean up bills, send them off, and organised second readings/votes.

Jace stops people from being pricks and makes sure people are voting.
Thats all I wanted to know,

and Owen, as for the business of who leads the Socialist party, its still a pretty interesting issue and something that always provokes a response from you lot. You are quite happy about ****ging off my members labelling them 'elitist snobs' and you complain when I claim your organisational structure is disorganised.
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Well, off the top of my head, we'd abolish the positions of Prime Minister, Queen and House of Lords, transfer its responsibilites on to the Supreme Soviet of the British People, and shoot all Tories on the Terrace of the Palace of Westminster...
Are there any more moderate Socialists?

Also who would become PM if you win?
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ukebert
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(Original post by davireland)
Thats all I wanted to know,

and Owen, as for the business of who leads the Socialist party, its still a pretty interesting issue and something that always provokes a response from you lot. You are quite happy about ****ging off my members labelling them 'elitist snobs' and you complain when I claim your organisational structure is disorganised.
That is because one or two of your members are elitist snobs, wereas the Socialist organisational structure is not disorganised.
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davireland
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(Original post by ukebert)
That is because one or two of your members are elitist snobs, wereas the Socialist organisational structure is not disorganised.
Well it is when private arguements spill out into the public domain and your most intelligent member resigns his seat. If you had a strong leader then they would never allow that to happen.
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Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by ukebert)
That is because one or two of your members are elitist snobs, wereas the Socialist organisational structure is not disorganised.
Can I remind the Barman that he's technically Barman so he shouldnt produce these partisan comments.
Alasdair
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(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Can I remind the Barman that he's technically Barman so he shouldnt produce these partisan comments.
The Deputy's only required to be impartial while he's acting as Speaker... Consider reading the relevant amendment before posting next time.
Alasdair
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(Original post by davireland)
Well it is when private arguements spill out into the public domain and your most intelligent member resigns his seat. If you had a strong leader then they would never allow that to happen.
Glad to see you're ruling with an iron fist over at Tory HQ then...
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by Alasdair)
The Deputy's only required to be impartial while he's acting as Speaker... Consider reading the relevant amendment before posting next time.
Just a second, I PM'd Dan asking about what Uke's role was ay the moment, and that seemed to me that Owen was still technically Barman with powers until the weekend, In that event I think that I would like an Impartial Barman.
davireland
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(Original post by Alasdair)
Glad to see you're ruling with an iron fist over at Tory HQ then...
If you knew anything about my leadership style you would know I dont autocratically rule over the Tory party, we as a party deal with internal disputes, we never let is spill into the public domain.
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Alasdair
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(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Just a second, I PM'd Dan asking about what Uke's role was ay the moment, and that seemed to me that Owen was still technically Barman with powers until the weekend, In that event I think that I would like an Impartial Barman.
He has powers because he's also SG of the MUN. So his Forum Assistant status doesn't change. Dan's been back for two days.
Matthew_Lowson
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(Original post by ukebert)
Well I wrote the damn thing, it's my property. However, I'll not release it of my own accord if my old party does not wish it to be released. It isn't very interesting anyway and Alasdair is right that it would just end up being nitpicked, which would be tiresome and embarrassing for me.
Ok then its upto you, you can release it as author, there's nothing I or any party can do to stop you. But I would suggest that what the members of this house want is the chance to understand what happens within the Socialist camp.
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