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I give up...
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To be honest if your family income is very low you should be able to get a significant level of grants from the government and the institution. My friend here at UCL gets about a combined total of £3,500 in grants alone and shes from the north east. That said the means-tested system is pretty flawed in my opinion and if you narrowly miss off the top band of government/university support then fair enough Manchester is a good choice... the last thing you would want is suspending your studies due to finances. Anyways Manchesters is a top institution within the England so its not as if you are forced to attend a poor institution due to money.

That said is there still a possibility that you ask for deffered entry (for LSE course) so that you could work for a year and get some money to support your studies? Or even your parents could too save up some money during that year as well to help, because thats what a friend in my halls did.
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(Original post by Ittoqqooorrtormitt)
I had got an offer for Sociology (BBB) last year, but was told by parents and other relatives etc. that it would "cost far too much" and to be honest I took their word for it. London seemed far away and "obviously" hellishly expensive. (Though I live in the North East and I don't think too many people I know have actually been to London. :rolleyes:) So I took up my next best offer, ABB at The University of Manchester.

At Manchester now I am living on maybe £40-ish a week and that includes transport, food, going out etc. My self-catered accommodation costs £2,700 a year.

I do love it in Manchester but lately I've been wondering whether financially, as that was my only barrier, I made a right decision to go to Manchester, or whether I could've made a go at London? I mean, surely it IS possible to live cheaply in London, but I guess it must be 100x harder than it is 'up north'? I'll probably be inundated with facts and figures for why I would never have coped but at least I'd then be able to rest easy
I think you made the right decision if you are happy with it.

By that, I mean there is no point going to a university in London if you cannot afford it. Personally, one of the reasons I did not apply to Durham (although to be fair, I don't actually like the place / course / atmosphere anyway) was the cost in the sense that the halls and private rents are simply to expensive. If you would have been struggling financially, then you would not have been focused on your studies or making the most of the student lifestyle and therefore you wouldn't have had a good time.

When you fall between the 'rich' and the 'poor', it is difficult as it is likely that your parents cannot give you as much financial support as they would like / you need and at the same time you do not qualify for all the government support available. Thus, stand by your decision. And make the most of being a student at a highly rated red brick university in the amazing city of Manchester!
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To be perfectly honest. Going to a london university won't provide you with the same "uni lifestyle" as everywhere else. You can't go out clubbing as often as its too expensive, also your in central london so its not like it's THAT studenty. Obviously it's a different experience but IMO you probably won't go out as much and the university will feel less like a community and more like a job.
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I agree with above posts, LSE has the hgihwest graduates earning in the UK, but mind you Machester isnt far behind.

Surely that's averaged out across all subjects though? LSE is fairly biased towards finance-based degrees (ie, Economics, for a start), and I'm sure Economics graduates are skewing the figures there a little for the rest of the degrees. I doubt anyone looking to employ a sociology graduate is going to care whether they went to LSE or to Manchester, it's not like the OP is going to go into IB. Unless there are figures for LSE sociology graduates earning more than sociology graduates from Manchester, there's little point bandying about that statistic.
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I haven't decided whether I'm going to firm LSE yet. I'm not sure that I even will, and that is in part due to the cost. The degree I would be doing has solid grad prospects, but I'm not really interested in the financial and other city jobs with the top starting salaries. So, I won't necessarily be able to make up the difference as it were. And even if I do change my mind about what I want to do, I don't think a Warwick degree will massively impair my career prospects.
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To be honest if you get a first or a 2:1 from a good university you can apply for a whole variety of jobs.
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OP, If you can't afford it, you can't afford it! It's no big deal. True, LSE has the prestige, but it's not as if Manchester is a ****, squalid hell-hole of a uni. It's good.

Things happen for a reason, so don't worry.
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I give up...
Hehe sorry mate; couldn't resist!
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To truely live is to have no regrets, you may be regretting your decision at the moment, but seriously consider this, you would have picked London if you REALLY wanted to go, no matter what your friends/family were saying, so regret nothing.
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Haha, you're kidding right?

I'm from Hong Kong too, but thats not the impression I'm getting. Maybe its just certain parts of Hong Kong.
Actually before our teachers introduced us to TSR, almost all of us had never heard of LSE. But we'd heard a lot about Manchester and Warwick. Most of our teachers are oxford/cambridge grads and they recommend Oxbridge, Manchester and Warwick.

I asked my form tutor today "should I apply to do Law at LSE or Manchester University?" and he said "if you're going to work in Hong Kong, then I recommend Manchester because of its greater international reputation". Then he told me Manchester is ranked much higher than LSE in the world rankings (i'm not sure about that, he might be wrong).

Maybe its because this forum is British that LSE seems to be so much better? I'm sure LSE is undoubtedly better on a domestic scale: but certainly from what my teachers say at school, Manchester University is amongst the top in the world (whereas LSE isn't).

Well it's just my teacher's opinion. I myself won't be applying to LSE because I want to do engineering.
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IMO LSE is more prestigious for such subjects such as econ and law, mainly because it has the advantage of being in the city and has such an international composition. but for a subject like sociology, i don't think you'd have benefitted too much from its location etc.

I asked my form tutor today "should I apply to do Law at LSE or Manchester University?" and he said "if you're going to work in Hong Kong, then I recommend Manchester because of its greater international reputation". Then he told me Manchester is ranked much higher than LSE in the world rankings (i'm not sure about that, he might be wrong).
LSE is only low because your teacher probably looked at the overall league table. Its a specialised university so gaining a high overall ranking isn't really its priority. check the social sciences league table (:
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(Original post by Pandapple)
IMO LSE is more prestigious for such subjects such as econ and law, mainly because it has the advantage of being in the city and has such an international composition. but for a subject like sociology, i don't think you'd have benefitted too much from its location etc.



LSE is only low because your teacher probably looked at the overall league table. Its a specialised university so gaining a high overall ranking isn't really its priority. check the social sciences league table (:
I just checked, and LSE was ranked 31st in the world overall in 2006. They dropped all they way to 59th this year. Why!?! :confused:
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(Original post by Cool.Zero)
I just checked, and LSE was ranked 31st in the world overall in 2006. They dropped all they way to 59th this year. Why!?! :confused:
Weighting of ranking changed, plummeting them downwards. I think the subject one is more reliable, which puts LSE 3rd in the world for social sciences. Sums it up I think.
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What you should really check is the World ranking for social sciences as this is all it does, otherwise it will score a poor mark on things like, diversity of courses. In this case it is 3rd in the world.

I can't honestly imagine any teacher, let alone an oxbridge graduate claiming that Manchester has a greater international reputation than LSE, especially in Hong Kong, LSE has its own alumnus society there as well as throughout asia. Manchester's a good university, but its hardly top of its field.
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cool zero

this is extremely disturbing,wierd and bizzare all at the same time. You actually want to do engineering now??!

So you want medicine so badly. Then law. Then maybe both. Then now you want engineering.

Pls dont come into the forum and give people misleading comments. Any person who actually believes manchester and warwick is better than lse in terms of international reputation is either very ill-informed, blind-folded or plain dumb. Period. Im not going to even contend why lse is more reputable than those 2 unis. Its just a plain waste of effort to justify something thats patently obvious.

And why do you even care about international reputation? This OP is a UK citizen. You have already concurred that LSE has an incredible domestic reputation. its not like this factor matters anyway. Din you say somewhere how good durham is and how much you want to get into durham? Well durham is v unheard of outside the UK.

back to thread. OP actually you are already at manchester and so theres nothing we can say that will even remotely affect you in any way. If you want some form of retrospective advices, yes. It seems abit of a pity to give up LSE for manchester, but for compelling reasons such as lack of finances, and for a subject like sociology, I would say you didnt lose out much by choosing to go to manchester. Lse is famous more for its acctancy and economics and finance course, and its a lil wierd how people seems to think that every course in LSE is top notch.
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(Original post by Ittoqqooorrtormitt)
I had got an offer for Sociology (BBB) last year, but was told by parents and other relatives etc. that it would "cost far too much" and to be honest I took their word for it. London seemed far away and "obviously" hellishly expensive. (Though I live in the North East and I don't think too many people I know have actually been to London. :rolleyes:) So I took up my next best offer, ABB at The University of Manchester.

At Manchester now I am living on maybe £40-ish a week and that includes transport, food, going out etc. My self-catered accommodation costs £2,700 a year.

I do love it in Manchester but lately I've been wondering whether financially, as that was my only barrier, I made a right decision to go to Manchester, or whether I could've made a go at London? I mean, surely it IS possible to live cheaply in London, but I guess it must be 100x harder than it is 'up north'? I'll probably be inundated with facts and figures for why I would never have coped but at least I'd then be able to rest easy
Very poor decision.
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Very poor decision.
please ... that was such a wasted effort!
yeah its true, but i think usually the reputation of the university plays a bigger part than the actual course..
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please ... that was such a wasted effort!
yeah its true, but i think usually the reputation of the university plays a bigger part than the actual course..
what you on about?
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what you on about?
we are talking about the reputation of university and i was merely saying that you someone said that the actual degree is better in manc, but i was saying that it matters where you do the degree to an extent...
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