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Do I still have to respect my parent even if they beat me?

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Original post by JaydorIV
God commands us to 'honour thy father and mother', that includes obeying them, respecting them, honouring them. notice he didn't say honour thy 'kind' or 'godly' or 'nice' father and mother. so whoever our parents are, God commands us to obey, respect and honour them.

if you're married, I don't think you don't really have to obey them anymore as the Bible describes how you leave your father and mother and become one with your wife, but you should still respect them.


so even if they sexually, physically and emotionally abuse you to the point were you wanna end your life you should still respect them. thats just wrong in every way :frown:
What a load of ****. You are not obliged to be there with them, there is no justification to this (light disciplinary action is allowed to the extent of just a light push/force even, there should never be any injuries, outward and internal, the face should not even be touched and if this happened due to the parents anger rather then the justifications are completly nullified) and move away from him and start to rebuild yourself, he's coming in the way of you and God which is a perfectly good reason to disobey. Remember that you have rights over your parents as well. Whilst it would be hard to ever have that level of respect for you father again, don't ever become like him, it's best you sensibly move as far away from there and perhaps in the future try to communicate with them from afar. Be patient my friend.
Original post by *Deidre*
He also tells parents to not make it difficult for their kids to honor them. It's not a one way street. Parents who abuse their kids don't deserve respect, imo.


you almost got it, he says that father's should not provoke their children to wrath. but even of your parent does, you should always obey, respect and honour them. King Saul's (who went a bit insane) son Jonathan didn't do that which is probably why he died.
Original post by Xx.m.xX
so even if they sexually, physically and emotionally abuse you to the point were you wanna end your life you should still respect them. thats just wrong in every way :frown:


respect should always be there for your parent because they are your parent and God commanded it. of course it'd be hard for them, but a Christian response would be to forgive, pray for your parent, not hold a grudge and move on. or at least aim towards that because it's obviously be very hard to do that straight away.
You can forgive someone, that doesn't mean you need to reconcile. Moving on would be the right thing. You don't have to turn to hurting them in return, or hating them. I just don't think you need to accept having abusers in your life, I don't believe God would instruct this.
No way, no one deserves to feel as if they should accept this kind of treatment, at any age. I recommend you do what ever you can to seek help and get out of this unhealthy situation.
Respect is right way forward.
Are you really advising a 20 year old to resort to violent thuggery and risk a criminal conviction?
Just because other people choose to indulge in violent criminal behaviour their choices are not shining examples for everyone else to replicate.



Original post by sayan98
You don't have to respect anyone. Hit him back if he does it again.
Its not just one religion's scriptures being cited on this thread to encourage a victim of violent abuse to just accept it and respect the cruel, criminal abuser.
I've seen TSR users parroting a bunch of different religions, languages and quotes- all with the same horrid ancient message.


Original post by Seamus123
Young girls and women are living in a culture where parents and family members have every right to abuse the female members in their communities. What is even more worrying are the responses here from young people who subscribe to this behaviour. Maybe this is what is expected in the country of origin, but don’t come here and think this crap will be tolerated. You may NOT batter your children. Brainwashing your children to believe that this is OK is immoral. As for this Allah business - are you actually saying that bashing another human being to within an inch of their lives will see some bloke called Allah meting out justice to violent abusers? I don’t think so. The OP fought back but many don’t. And you should not be telling her she shouldn’t. Just don’t have children if this is what they can expect if they live in your culture.
Catholicism has its own bad apples too. Every religion does.

My mother comes from an ultra traditionalist catholic family, her father and his mother were a pair of violent fanatics who made her childhood a misery
Goaded on by his toxic mother, her monster of a father beat her unconscious and had her locked in a room lying on the floor in a pool of blood, when she told them she was going to marry my father- an atheist.
She was beaten so badly that the doctors though that she would be unable to have children.
Her own mother didn't participate in the violence but did nothing to put a stop to it or get my mother medical help.

My mother stayed catholic and still prays for her father- his soul and his forgiveness.
Her mother is an 80 year old religious fanatic who never uses violence but spews vile nonsense at anybody unwise enough to converse with her.


Original post by pjrodarte339
become a catholic
Original post by londonmyst
Catholicism has its own bad apples too. Every religion does.

My mowther comes from an ultra traditionalist catholic family, her father and his mother were a pair of violent fanatics who made her childhood a misery
Goaded on by his toxic mother, her monster of a father beat her unconscious and had her locked in a room lying on the floor in a pool of blood, when she told them she was going to marry my father- an atheist.
She was beaten so badly that the doctors though that she would be unable to have children.
Her own mother didn't participate in the violence but did nothing to put a stop to it or get my mother medical help.

My mother stayed catholic and still prays for her father- his soul and his forgiveness.
Her mother is an 80 year old religious fanatic who never uses violence but spews vile nonsense at anybody unwise enough to converse with her.


Both parents RC. 16 children and we all ended up in the care of the RC church. Across the board abuse. My mother, even when the stories hit the nationals about the abuse in the Church remained staunch to the Church even on her deathbed. I never met either of my parents but the facts came out after she died. Her religion came before her children. Unforgivable.
get a job, start earning pounds, leave the house and they’ll never lay a hand on you. just grow up
How terrible, I have no idea what to say except I'm so sorry how much you and your siblings suffered.

My maternal grandmother left her widowed mother to rot in poverty in her old age, then be buried in a pauper's grave- while she spent thousands on antique jewellery, new mink coats and holy relics every week throughout her marriage.
Even shocked her equally deranged mother in law, who feared a precedent was being established.

Decades later having reached pensioner age herself she still brags about it as "an act of divine vengeance upon the foulest of heretics, consort to the devil"- she's forever ranting about the devil and his family. Plenty to say about sin, heresy and the eternal fire too.
Never anything about love, compassion or helping others.

My father is a far left socialist and militant atheist.
He wants all organised religions outlawed, state seizure of their assets to help support victims of religious organisation abuse and religious buildings used to house homeless people.
Whenever my mother got caught with a rosary or trying to sneak me out as a child to go to church, my father's bellowing would last for hours.

Original post by Seamus123
Both parents RC. 16 children and we all ended up in the care of the RC church. Across the board abuse. My mother, even when the stories hit the nationals about the abuse in the Church remained staunch to the Church even on her deathbed. I never met either of my parents but the facts came out after she died. Her religion came before her children. Unforgivable.
Original post by londonmyst
Catholicism has its own bad apples too. Every religion does.

My mother comes from an ultra traditionalist catholic family, her father and his mother were a pair of violent fanatics who made her childhood a misery
Goaded on by his toxic mother, her monster of a father beat her unconscious and had her locked in a room lying on the floor in a pool of blood, when she told them she was going to marry my father- an atheist.
She was beaten so badly that the doctors though that she would be unable to have children.
Her own mother didn't participate in the violence but did nothing to put a stop to it or get my mother medical help.

My mother stayed catholic and still prays for her father- his soul and his forgiveness.
Her mother is an 80 year old religious fanatic who never uses violence but spews vile nonsense at anybody unwise enough to converse with her.


thats deep man
I'm not sure if you want an Islamic perspective on this but if you do here is my response:

Firstly, some of these replies are disturbing. I am a Muslim myself and I know that it is not okay for parents to abuse their children even in Islam and the children should not silently put up with the abuse. Respect is different to putting up with the abuse. You can leave the house, call the police, have them punished by law and still respect them as the people who gave birth to you, fed you, gave you a house to live in etc. This means not abusing them back for what they've done to you, not treating them like filth, just treat them like you would any normal human being.

Here is a response to a question on abusive parents from Nouman Ali Khan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUQ_yzueTU. It is not okay to abuse!

For anyone who is torn about abusive parents and whether it is okay in Islam, just look towards the Prophet's treatment of children. I was surprised myself when I researched it because I never realised how much respect the Prophet had for his children and other's children. I almost cried because I also thought that Islam endorsed abusive parents.

Respect them as people and give them their human rights but do not give in to their abuse.
Under no religion is abuse allowed, do what you can to protect yourself first and if after that it is still possible for you to treat them like you would any other human being then do so. But if the only way to protect yourself is cutting off ties with them then that is allowed too.
Original post by Hnn110
As it is says in the Quran: do not even say ‘uff’ to ur parents also in Islam it is believed u should never walk in front of your father

Stop quoting a Hateful,violent fictional book.No muslim can tell me who wrote the quran they all disagree.When you can't even come to terms with who wrote the quran why should you even believe in it?
Jesus is LORD the Almighty. peaceful and Just God.
I still think you should listen to your parents, but you should know when to listen to them and when to not

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