Black people raised in white society.

I know, I know, there's lots of interracial threads, but I couldn't find the exact answer I was looking for!

So, with a new influx of people in 6th form, my school now has a 'black group'. Some of them are friends, and we were just having a group discussion one lunch time, when it somehow came up that me and another black girl weren't into black guys at all.

It got really heated in the end :rolleyes:

I said that not only did they generally not do it for me physically, but that almost - no one seemed to read this first time round :rolleyes:

every single one I've ever met has been an ignorant chav, nasty perv or just an all round bastard. It also doesn't help that black people consistently, and I do mean CONSISTENTLY, glare at me in public places/walking down the road. Just the other day, I had a whole family of about 8 people simultaneously give me evils, just walking down the high street, :confused:

We then got into this, and it turns out that I'm basically like a white girl in a black girl's body. Now I've always known this, made a joke out of it. I don't dress/speak/live/act/like the same music as other black girls. I'm born and bred snobbish white suburb, private schooled till 11, then grammar schooled until now. I won't lie.

I never seriously thought that people were judging me for it though :frown:

Bit of a shock, to be honest. In terms of white guys, had a fair amount of success, two white bfs, but I do get the feeling that I confuse/intimidate them in some way, same when I speak to black guys?

So, questions from this little incident, that I would pretty please like some answers to: -

1) Do any other black people get the judging/bitching etc. from their black family/friends?
2)What do people think about themselves/others not possessing the cultural hallmarks of their race, whatever that may be? Right/wrong, strange/normal etc. etc.
3)Why are some black people so mistrustworthy of white people/other races, especially when seen in 'one of their own'?

Hope that's clearer now, for those who genuinely didn't see what I was getting at, understandably.

(And I DON'T want anyone calling me racist, that's not what I'm asking for.)

Reply 1

xximstrongerthanthatxx

3

I see all men as the same. I've met some really nice black guys and some total pervy, chavy white boys. I think your generalising far too much, and it's probably just where you live..and the enviroment your in that you realise this.

Reply 2

Nasher and Basher

2

Being BLACK is a state of mind, just a stereotypical view of who a person is !!

Reply 3

yvonnay

11

I'm black and I don't fit the typical stereotypes of being a black teenager (whatever they may be) I get bitched about for hanging out with my friends who are majority white, my best friend is white and the other one is mixed race. But I tend to ignore what other people think or say because at the end of the day I don't have to 'act' black because I already am lol And I love all nationalities of guys. It's just a colour of the skin. I've met some really nice decent black guys and some who I think are wannabe's/nevergonnabe gangstas but equally i've met some white guys who are exactly the same.

Reply 4

nneka!

xximstrongerthanthatxx

I see all men as the same. I've met some really nice black guys and some total pervy, chavy white boys. I think your generalising far too much, and it's probably just where you live..and the enviroment your in that you realise this.

100% agree

Reply 5

Invocation

12

Kathryn128

I know, I know, there's lots of interracial threads, but I couldn't find the exact answer I was looking for!

So, with a new influx of people in 6th form, my school now has a 'black group'. Some of them are friends, and we were just having a group discussion one lunch time, when it somehow came up that me and another black girl weren't into black guys at all.

It got really heated in the end :rolleyes:

I said that not only did they generally not do it for me physically, but that almost every single one I've ever met has been an ignorant chav, nasty perv or just an all round bastard. It also doesn't help that black people consistently, and I do mean CONSISTENTLY, glare at me in public places/walking down the road. Just the other day, I had a whole family of about 8 people simultaneously give me evils, just walking down the high street, :confused:

We then got into this, and it turns out that I'm basically like a white girl in a black girl's body. Now I've always known this, made a joke out of it. I don't dress/speak/live/act/like the same music as other black girls. I'm born and bred snobbish white suburb, private schooled till 11, then grammar schooled until now. I won't lie.

I never seriously thought that people were judging me for it though :frown:

Bit of a shock, to be honest. In terms of white guys, had a fair amount of success, two white bfs, but I do get the feeling that I confuse/intimidate them in some way, same when I speak to black guys?

Anyone care to shed some light?

(And I DON'T want anyone calling me racist, that's not what I'm asking for.)

What's your point? You don't find black guys attractive ? Neither do I. Big deal. :rolleyes:

Reply 6

trance addict

18

Kathryn128

We then got into this, and it turns out that I'm basically like a white girl in a black girl's body. Now I've always known this, made a joke out of it. I don't dress/speak/live/act/like the same music as other black girls. I'm born and bred snobbish white suburb, private schooled till 11, then grammar schooled until now. I won't lie.

sounds just like me.. im a coconut (white on the inside brown on the outside) and your considered an "Oreo"

but at the end of the day.. **** them all. be happy as you are because your still black at the end of the day and no one can tell you otherwise

Reply 7

hermaphrodite

15

Kathryn128

We then got into this, and it turns out that I'm basically like a white girl in a black girl's body.

It's called a coconut :p:

edit: but being from middle england, i assume you already knew that

Kathryn128

I never seriously thought that people were judging me for it though :frown:

well think again my friend, I mean you Public School/Grammar School toff :p:

Reply 8

hermaphrodite

15

I just read your profile OP. and I quote . . . .White caffe mochas on frosty winter days in London

Not a Black Caffe Mocha then :laugh:

Reply 9

Kathryn128

OP

8

Invocation

What's your point? You don't find black guys attractive ? Neither do I. Big deal. :rolleyes:

Fine, let me clarify.

1) Do any other black people get the judging/bitching etc. from their black family/friends?
2)What do people think about themselves/others not possessing the cultural hallmarks of their race, whatever that may be? Right/wrong, strange/normal etc. etc.
3)Why are some black people so mistrustworthy of white people/other races, especially when seen in 'one of their own'?

That's pretty much what I want to know.

Reply 10

Kathryn128

OP

8

hermaphrodite

I just read your profile OP. and I quote . . . .White caffe mochas on frosty winter days in London

Not a Black Caffe Mocha then :laugh:

See??? Even white hot chocolate is ten times better than the ordinary one for me :biggrin:

Reply 11

Kathryn128

OP

8

hermaphrodite

It's called a coconut :p:

edit: but being from middle england, i assume you already knew that

well think again my friend, I mean you Public School/Grammar School toff :p:

coconut, oreo, malteser, I've even had tree trunk before :wink:

Reply 12

fleur_de_haine

16

I've always been called rather 'white acting' though, I embrace my heritage fully. I see myself as very black, only, I don't define being black with the same parameters as those you speak of. Why should my heritage define how I act, or whom I have relationships with? Though, I have to say, if you find yourself being given 'the evils' by most black people, I'd suggest your demeanor invites it. I say that largely because I've experienced the same to some extent, but I'd blame it on my being rather haughty.

Then again, I am mixed raced, so many black people were never too friendly to me, despite the fact that I'm fairly dark.

Raz

Reply 13

yvonnay

11

Kathryn128

Fine, let me clarify.

1) Do any other black people get the judging/bitching etc. from their black family/friends?
2)What do people think about themselves/others not possessing the cultural hallmarks of their race, whatever that may be? Right/wrong, strange/normal etc. etc.
3)Why are some black people so mistrustworthy of white people/other races, especially when seen in 'one of their own'?

That's pretty much what I want to know.

1) yep both lol not so much my family but definately friends even my friends who aren't black make comments lol
2) I think whatever, you are who you are. Whether you choose to embrace it or not. Personally although I may not 'act' black I love the fact that I have that culture of where I come from
3) I think that they just think we're trying to be something we're not or we don't want to associate ourselves as being black. But I personally love being black and I don't think there is a certain way to act or be. Not all black people think the same though lol

Reply 14

pink-marshmallow

10

im sorry but it sounds like your sayin theres a particular way black people should grow up and act. Im black myself and i dont feel the need to act a certain way just because of my skin colour.
EEH.
your post CONFUZZLES meh (oh and slightly annoys me too)

Reply 15

yvonnay

11

pink-marshmallow

im sorry but it sounds like your sayin theres a particular way black people should grow up and act. Im black myself and i dont feel the need to act a certain way just because of my skin colour.
EEH.
your post CONFUZZLES meh (oh and slightly annoys me too)

Thats how I feel. Not all black people wear hoodies and want to be rap artistes. Maybe the OP hasn't come across many other black folk yet. :rolleyes:

Reply 16

Kathryn128

OP

8

pink-marshmallow

im sorry but it sounds like your sayin theres a particular way black people should grow up and act. Im black myself and i dont feel the need to act a certain way just because of my skin colour.
EEH.
your post CONFUZZLES meh (oh and slightly annoys me too)

Actually, I'm saying the exact opposite. There's a way OTHER people EXPECT all black people to act like. My point is that I don't, and there are certain groups of people in my life who have a problem with that.

Reply 17

Quita

1

Kathryn128

I know, I know, there's lots of interracial threads, but I couldn't find the exact answer I was looking for!

So, with a new influx of people in 6th form, my school now has a 'black group'. Some of them are friends, and we were just having a group discussion one lunch time, when it somehow came up that me and another black girl weren't into black guys at all.

It got really heated in the end :rolleyes:

I said that not only did they generally not do it for me physically, but that almost every single one I've ever met has been an ignorant chav, nasty perv or just an all round bastard. It also doesn't help that black people consistently, and I do mean CONSISTENTLY, glare at me in public places/walking down the road. Just the other day, I had a whole family of about 8 people simultaneously give me evils, just walking down the high street, :confused:

We then got into this, and it turns out that I'm basically like a white girl in a black girl's body. Now I've always known this, made a joke out of it. I don't dress/speak/live/act/like the same music as other black girls. I'm born and bred snobbish white suburb, private schooled till 11, then grammar schooled until now. I won't lie.

I never seriously thought that people were judging me for it though :frown:

Bit of a shock, to be honest. In terms of white guys, had a fair amount of success, two white bfs, but I do get the feeling that I confuse/intimidate them in some way, same when I speak to black guys?

Anyone care to shed some light?

(And I DON'T want anyone calling me racist, that's not what I'm asking for.)

Wow long post and I think i'll take each of your points in consideration in turn. This is coming from the point of view of a girl who grew up in a white area and because of the way i was my black ex decided to call me a 'british jamaican'. which i am actually proud of because yes i am British... i was born here, i was brought up here, and i'm jamaican by heritage.

i'm not into black girls... i generally don't find them that attractive.. however i think your generalisation of all black guys being a perv, bastard or chav is taking it a bit far. granted a lot of black guys are these things and i think it is living up to the stereotypes formed of them... which annoys me greatly... but there are actually some really nice decent black guys out there. Similarly I find a lot of black girls, arrogant and ignorant, but I know this is not the case of all black women.

Your note on black people consistently giving you evils... I'm not sure what it isut i think that for some reason black people feel the need to stare at and even say hello to other black people... i guess its this whole thing of brotherhood/sisterhood thing. However i find it quite intimidating and I guess you do too. Unfortunately i think it is an unavoidable fact.

I don't think you should be judged for who you, but unfortunately thats the way society is and within a lot of black culture... people are happy if you don't live up to their expectations of 'blackness'. All i can say is be happy with who you are and people will appreciate it...

P.s... this just reminds me of Brian from big brother, who is from the same area of essex i went to school in and was accused of not being 'black enough...' - what does that say about black society?

Reply 18

Quita

1

also my family... my uncle when i was younger used to take the mick out of my english accent...

Reply 19

pink-marshmallow

10

Kathryn128

Actually, I'm saying the exact opposite. There's a way OTHER people EXPECT all black people to act like. My point is that I don't, and there are certain groups of people in my life who have a problem with that.

Feel free to make a point about yourself, but you shouldn't make out like every black guy is no-good just because the ones YOU'VE met are dodgy.

Im sooooooo sure this kinda thing has been featured OVER NINE THOOOOOUSAAAAND times on those Ricki Lake show reruns on ITV2.

I really wish one day there will be none of the whole 'WAAAH i feel so stereotyped because im black', 'WAAAAH society is against us' and the 'WAAAAAAAH how could you be acting white when you iz really black...i'll zap yo dumbass' kinda thing because its dead pointless. EEEEEEEHHh!

Black people raised in white society.

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