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Reply 1

A combination of both :smile:

Reply 2

hard work. some exams you can pass by just remembering stuff

Reply 3

OOh thats tuff.
I am a hard worker not naturally intelligent.
it annoys the hell out of me when someone intelligent like a boy in my law class and politics class gets stright A's but messes around during lessons. It is just NOT FAIR.
However probably to study its intelligence but when your in practice of the educated career path you have chosen it is hard work otherwise you can never be a success. Personally i think the hard worker is hard top come accross these days, but i personally would give more credit to a hard worker than a intelligent lay about.

Reply 4

ticklepink
OOh thats tuff.
I am a hard worker not naturally intelligent.
it annoys the hell out of me when someone intelligent like a boy in my law class and politics class gets stright A's but messes around during lessons. It is just NOT FAIR.
However probably to study its intelligence but when your in practice of the educated career path you have chosen it is hard work otherwise you can never be a success. Personally i think the hard worker is hard top come accross these days, but i personally would give more credit to a hard worker than a intelligent lay about.


Couldn't have put it better myself.:smile:

Reply 5

I would say you need a definite combination of both.
Although there are those out there who can do little to no work and still come out with As, those people are extremely rare, plus working hard gives you a good work ethic for the future as well.. those who mess about aren't going to make terribly good employees if you think about it.

Reply 6

dh00001
hard work. some exams you can pass by just remembering stuff


ditto.

spose why im good at maths is because i remember methods and principles. :s-smilie:

Reply 7

ticklepink
OOh thats tuff.
I am a hard worker not naturally intelligent.
it annoys the hell out of me when someone intelligent like a boy in my law class and politics class gets stright A's but messes around during lessons. It is just NOT FAIR.
However probably to study its intelligence but when your in practice of the educated career path you have chosen it is hard work otherwise you can never be a success. Personally i think the hard worker is hard top come accross these days, but i personally would give more credit to a hard worker than a intelligent lay about.


Well put. And add me to your category! I just have to plough through stuff to get it understood and covered! Annoying ~~

Reply 8

You can do well with just hard work and little intelligence.....you won't do well with intelligence + pure laziness.

It helps to be intellegent when you study. Intellegence is like a highway when you study, but hardwork is the car which gets you across. If you go through the traffic, you'll still get there eventually, but if you don't make the effort to move across even an empty highway, you won't get anywhere.

I've seen live case of a not-so-intellegent individual being one of the top students in the year through sheer hard work, and i've also seen an intellegent person nearly fail due to pure laziness.

Reply 9

Interesting question. Schoolwork always came easily to me, I take in information very easily and always got good grades with the minimum of effort. I couldn't understand why I was rubbish at maths until the teacher pointed out that that I made absolutely no effort - the concept of actually trying was totally foreign to me. I was used to being good at everything naturally. Because I was too lazy to study (and to be fair on myself, I was stuck in a rubbish class with non english speaking kids and my parents wouldnt pay for a tutor), I only got a C in GCSE maths which really cut out a lot of career options for me. That was one occasion where hard work would have paid off. I find now that my laziness hinders my ability to get a great job - I don't naturally push myself forward and strive for things. So I think a mixture of intelligence and hard work is necessary to succeed in uni and life.

Reply 10

To answer this question you're going to have to specify the functional form of

Success = f(Intelligence,Hard Work)

as clearly it's increasing in each parameter

I'd put forward something like Success = (Intelligence*HardWork)^0.5

Reply 11

Intelligence alone got me through A-Levels and onto a top-ten Law course; lack of discipline and a non-existent work-ethic thereafter conspired to bring about my downfall.

Short of being profoundly gifted, it's almost certain that fulfilling your academic and professional potential will eventually necessitate some measure of both.

Reply 12

I was always a do no work whatsoever and do well person, and people would be irritated by me, I think it definitely worked in high school, I was able to get full marks in an a level sociology exam and i revised the day before and pretty much mucked about all year (what does that say about sociology). However at university level its not the case I think you need the fusion of both.

Reply 13

Intelligence got me through GCSEs quite nicely but it definitely does not work for A-Levels, you need to know what the **** you're actually looking at. As I found out, when I opened up my first ever AS maths paper (in the actual exam) and just mentally collapsed. It may as well have been written in Chinese.

Reply 14

talespirit
You can do well with just hard work and little intelligence.....you won't do well with intelligence + pure laziness.


I did. Granted, not as well as I could've done; but I neither revised nor submitted homework, and my attendance by A2 had fallen somewhat below 80%. Despite this, I finished Y13 one mark shy of 'AAA' [History, English Literature and Politics].

University, really, is where your maxim will tend to apply.

Reply 15

IzzyWizzy
Interesting question. Schoolwork always came easily to me, I take in information very easily and always got good grades with the minimum of effort. I couldn't understand why I was rubbish at maths until the teacher pointed out that that I made absolutely no effort - the concept of actually trying was totally foreign to me. I was used to being good at everything naturally. Because I was too lazy to study (and to be fair on myself, I was stuck in a rubbish class with non english speaking kids and my parents wouldnt pay for a tutor), I only got a C in GCSE maths which really cut out a lot of career options for me. That was one occasion where hard work would have paid off. I find now that my laziness hinders my ability to get a great job - I don't naturally push myself forward and strive for things. So I think a mixture of intelligence and hard work is necessary to succeed in uni and life.


Same here.. except i am not rubbish at maths!:biggrin: lol
As far back as I can remember i was trying the very little..... but now i am willing to change that..:cool: :rolleyes:

Reply 16

agree, laziness will get you past A level but university is where the hard work comes in.

Reply 17

Profesh
Intelligence alone got me through A-Levels ................. lack of discipline and a non-existent work-ethic thereafter conspired to bring about my downfall.


Ditto.

I seemed to sail through school bemused at how anyone could ever get stressed over exams and the like, because minimal effort seemed to get me the best results when my friends were revising like crazy.

Got to uni thinking I could get away with the same approach and sank, while the ones I saw slaving away at school to scrape a C are finding it all a doddle.

Karma.

Sigh.

Reply 18

So far intelligence has done pretty well for me, I'm always pretty lazy, always tell myself I will stop and put some more effort in but never do.
Still, I should have achieved a fair bit more in GCSE's and A-levels. Hard work is definitely essential to reach full potential, but that is dictated by natural intelligence

Reply 19

Intelligence got me through my GCSEs and a levels, however at university i have to work hard to get good marks. I think a combination of both is probably the best.