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I worked my a$$ off at a rubbish comp to get AAA and then took a gap year to apply to Oxford.

I got in to study history of art so it’s basically a useless degree, the only mitigating thing for that is that it’s from Oxford. I’d achieved my degree and got into a prestigious college too.

I accepted the unconditional.

Now my gap year goes on and I’ve grown up a great deal, I’ve realised it’s no longer what I want.

It seems so pressurized, I won’t be bright enough for sure, dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience! I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.


Shall I go through clearing or just try out Oxford for a year?

The amount of family pressure to go to Oxford is insane. Working class immigrant families are so strict.
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(Original post by lapotapot)
I worked my a$$ off at a rubbish comp to get AAA and then took a gap year to apply to Oxford.

I got in to study history of art so it’s basically a useless degree, the only mitigating thing for that is that it’s from Oxford. I’d achieved my degree and got into a prestigious college too.

I accepted the unconditional.

Now my gap year goes on and I’ve grown up a great deal, I’ve realised it’s no longer what I want.

It seems so pressurized, I won’t be bright enough for sure, dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience! I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.


Shall I go through clearing or just try out Oxford for a year?

The amount of family pressure to go to Oxford is insane. Working class immigrant families are so strict.
First of all, History of Art is not a 'useless' degree, whether from Oxford or anywhere else.

However, if this is no longer the course you want to do, what alternatives have you come up with? If you haven't any idea, then the choice is between going to Oxford or nowhere, as things stand. The worst idea would be to choose a course in haste through Clearing.

I'd also point out that serious partying at any university is not usually compatible with getting a First - and there is plenty of fun to be had at Oxford.
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I worked my a$$ off at a rubbish comp to get AAA and then took a gap year to apply to Oxford.

I got in to study history of art so it’s basically a useless degree, the only mitigating thing for that is that it’s from Oxford. I’d achieved my degree and got into a prestigious college too.

I accepted the unconditional.

Now my gap year goes on and I’ve grown up a great deal, I’ve realised it’s no longer what I want.

It seems so pressurized, I won’t be bright enough for sure, dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience! I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.


Shall I go through clearing or just try out Oxford for a year?

The amount of family pressure to go to Oxford is insane. Working class immigrant families are so strict.
Definitely go to Oxford.

You said that you grew up a great deal but surely you can still 'grow up a little bit more' or (in other words) change in the future. It is very possible that you then actually regret your decision. It could for example be that you end up enjoying the course a lot and I am sure that Oxford can offer a much better experience in terms of further research or more content than one of the other unis mentioned.

Then you can always switch from Oxford to another university. If you actually dont like it, you can surely go somewhere else but it is going to be properly difficult to switch to Oxford when you later change your opinion.

Then you can also party in Oxford and even if the workload becomes too extreme, you can still switch or choose to do something else.

Lastly, the course in itself is probably a lot more fun at Oxford because the lecturing etc. will be of a higher quality and you would be surrounded by a lot of smart and enthusiastic people. Therefore, the study times are probably more enjoyable at Oxford than at the other universities.

Oxford is one of the best universities in the world. Surely you dont want to miss the opportunity of going there?
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I worked my a$$ off at a rubbish comp to get AAA and then took a gap year to apply to Oxford.

I got in to study history of art so it’s basically a useless degree, the only mitigating thing for that is that it’s from Oxford. I’d achieved my degree and got into a prestigious college too.

I accepted the unconditional.

Now my gap year goes on and I’ve grown up a great deal, I’ve realised it’s no longer what I want.

It seems so pressurized, I won’t be bright enough for sure, dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience! I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.


Shall I go through clearing or just try out Oxford for a year?

The amount of family pressure to go to Oxford is insane. Working class immigrant families are so strict.
The grass is always greener...

Some of your assumptions appear questionable - for instance, you are bright enough for Oxford (Oxford students are not a separate species), and you won't get a First anywhere without hard work.

However it is different to most other Unis in that you will be expected to demonstrate greater academic discipline with weekly tutes etc, and the lack of a central students' union does affect the social/music scene. Oxford isn't right for everyone, and if you have lost interest in HoA, maybe you should indeed go elsewhere.

I'd be inclined to go for Year 1 rather than go through clearing, but you should make your own choice, not feel pressured to follow the expectations of others. Either way, prepare yourself to get the most of of the experience.
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(Original post by lapotapot)
I worked my a$$ off at a rubbish comp to get AAA and then took a gap year to apply to Oxford.

I got in to study history of art so it’s basically a useless degree, the only mitigating thing for that is that it’s from Oxford. I’d achieved my degree and got into a prestigious college too.

I accepted the unconditional.

Now my gap year goes on and I’ve grown up a great deal, I’ve realised it’s no longer what I want.

It seems so pressurized, I won’t be bright enough for sure, dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience! I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.


Shall I go through clearing or just try out Oxford for a year?

The amount of family pressure to go to Oxford is insane. Working class immigrant families are so strict.
Can I ask why you applied for history of art in the first place and what has changed for you as your gap year has gone on? As others have pointed out, history of art isn't a useless degree. Sure, it's not directly vocational, but then few degrees are! As a music graduate from Oxford, I can tell you that the graduate prospects of doing a humanities/arts degree at Oxford aren't bad at all and that the world is pretty much your oyster, providing you have a good classification and a good general CV to go alongside :yes:

If you genuinely no longer want to go to Oxford for valid reasons, and/or don't want to study history of art anymore, then sure, do look into other options. I'd like to unpick some of what you've written though:

It seems so pressurized
Sure, can't argue with the fact that it'll be hard work and that the workload is more than other unis (bar The Other Place). But the actual reality of the pressure is that it depends on your college tutor, and a lot on yourself too. For some tutors (e.g. my music one), not handing in an essay on time is the most awful thing you could ever do. But the reality is that most tutors aren't like that Yes, you must try and do the work and try and hand it on time, but it's not the end of the world if you don't, in most cases :ninja:

Whilst I don't know the ins and outs of a history of art degree at Oxford, it's worth noting that most of your essays (if not all, with the exception of your third year Finals papers!), whilst they will be marked, have no bearing on your degree classification. So if you wanna do what I did (spend three years churning out substandard essays because you're busy doing extra-curriculars, sleeping and socialising), you easily can!

Imho, a lot of the pressure of an Oxford degree is internal and stems from an inferiority complex. Which takes me to your second statement:

I won’t be bright enough for sure
The tutors at Oxford have decided you are bright enough - the general rule of thumb is that those who are made Oxford offers are deemed able to get a 2.1 or First as their final degree classification, without many problems. Sure, tutors do occasionally misjudge but this is quite rare.

So I ask you: why are you so convinced you won't be bright enough? You mentioned you went to a "rubbish comp" - so did I. Going from a big fish in a small pond to a teeny tiny fish in a gigantic pond was overwhelming, sure, and my first year was a very steep learning curve because my schooling hadn't prepared me properly. But that didn't mean I wasn't bright or intelligent enough :nah:

Inferiority complexes are plenty abound at Oxford but people hide them. Anyone who isn't an arrogant ****wit and attends Oxford, tends to have an inferiority complex. People feel they're not good enough, not clever enough, working hard enough. This is rarely the truth though. It's tough when you're in teh top percentile of intelligence in the country (and indeed, the world!), to feel that you're doing a good job. But more people than not rise to the challenge


dossn’t seem fun. I want to enjoy my uni experience!
How are you defining fun here? Have you actually visited Oxford outside of your interview period and spoken to current students and/or alumni? There's lots of fun (of varying kinds!) at Oxford, plenty to suit everyone's/anyone's tastes and definitions of fun. We work hard, yes... but we tend to party even harder! Indeed, some colleges have a rep for that (Worcester - my college - for example!)

I’d rather go to a party uni like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield etc and have a crazy time and get a 1st. Rather than br tied to a desk and get a lower classification (probs) and no fun.

As others have pointed out, a First from anywhere requires work. Unless you're a genius, but they are very rare, even at Oxbridge!

You would most certainly not be tied down to a desk, either literally or metaphorically. If you want to chain yourself to a desk in the library for the whole three years, then sure, you can do that at Oxford... but hardly anyone wants to do that or does. Being tied to a desk is of one's own doing tbh.

Lower classification - it's true that you might be easier (though not easy) to get a First elsewhere. But do you want/need a First? And is that really unachievable if you attend Oxford? I doubt it's unachievable tbh, plenty manage it!


I'm not from a working class household (so I'm told) but I am from a poor household with immigrant pushy parents. So if you ever wanna chat about this and offload, feel free to drop me a PM
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