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university reputation IS important
I happen to think that a university's reputation should be a very high consideration in someone's decision to choose a particular university. A lot of people downplay it on TSR, saying ur first considerations should be whether you like the uni campus, course etc and whether the course is rated highly.
Yet any first judgement about uni life is likely to be fairly flawed considering one would have just been to an open day and cannot possibly gauge the aspects of it in such a limited time, so should be a minimal consideration. And one can be sure that uni rep can put you on a higher footing for jobs, so it would be far more rational to make uni rep your main consideration in choices for uni.
Agree/disagree?
Yet any first judgement about uni life is likely to be fairly flawed considering one would have just been to an open day and cannot possibly gauge the aspects of it in such a limited time, so should be a minimal consideration. And one can be sure that uni rep can put you on a higher footing for jobs, so it would be far more rational to make uni rep your main consideration in choices for uni.
Agree/disagree?
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Reply 3
i agree that uni rep is prob most important thing about a uni, it certainely was paramount in my mind when i applied to unis
Reply 4
Depends on whatever you're going to end up doing and personal preference really. I couldn't *bear* to go to somewhere i know i'd end up hating just for the sake of education - 4 years is a long time
popepius
I happen to think that a university's reputation should be a very high consideration in someone's decision to choose a particular university. A lot of people downplay it on TSR, saying ur first considerations should be whether you like the uni campus, course etc and whether the course is rated highly.
Yet any first judgement about uni life is likely to be fairly flawed considering one would have just been to an open day and cannot possibly gauge the aspects of it in such a limited time, so should be a minimal consideration. And one can be sure that uni rep can put you on a higher footing for jobs, so it would be far more rational to make uni rep your main consideration in choices for uni.
Agree/disagree?
Yet any first judgement about uni life is likely to be fairly flawed considering one would have just been to an open day and cannot possibly gauge the aspects of it in such a limited time, so should be a minimal consideration. And one can be sure that uni rep can put you on a higher footing for jobs, so it would be far more rational to make uni rep your main consideration in choices for uni.
Agree/disagree?
Completely disagree. Universities are not, and should not be, vocational colleges. Going to uni simply to get a job should certainly not be encouraged.
Moreover, what's so great about getting a job? If you're the sort of person who will compromise your happiness for four years simply to satisfy some potential future employer, I doubt you're ever going to be particularly content...
Reply 6
Jim-ie
Unless your competing for a top finance firm job with a very high salary, or the leadership of the tory party, most employers are more concerned that you had the dedication to go to university / know your stuff, over what one you went too.
Exactly.
Reply 8
Only individuals that call themselves 'one' would believe this lol
I'm going swansea university, not exactly up in the oxbridge/durham league, but it still doesn't mean I can't get a job in a top cardiology post..it's surely what you do with your degree after that puts you in good stead for jobs. For example, 'one' may have a degree in psychology at cambridge, and another in the same degree at UWE.
Lets say both were going to a job interview to be a clinical psychologist, the UWE graduate had done part time work in a hospital, got a 1st in their degree and spent a year doing a masters and assisted in reasearch, where as the cambridge graduate is straight out of university, and got a 2:2, with no reaearch or post-grad, who would you choose????
I'm going swansea university, not exactly up in the oxbridge/durham league, but it still doesn't mean I can't get a job in a top cardiology post..it's surely what you do with your degree after that puts you in good stead for jobs. For example, 'one' may have a degree in psychology at cambridge, and another in the same degree at UWE.
Lets say both were going to a job interview to be a clinical psychologist, the UWE graduate had done part time work in a hospital, got a 1st in their degree and spent a year doing a masters and assisted in reasearch, where as the cambridge graduate is straight out of university, and got a 2:2, with no reaearch or post-grad, who would you choose????
Jim-ie
Of the post-war Tory leaders IDS, John Major and Winston Churchill didn't even attend university, and Harold Macmillan dropped out.
John Major didn't even qualify as a bus conductor after he left school.
Reply 10
Of course they are.
The thing is, people tend to say 'it's not that important' when it's a question of Bristol or Nottingham; if it was a question of Bristol or Thames Valley, they might be more concerned.
I think TSR in general plays up uni reputations (probably to a more realisitc extent) than most people that I know, at least.
This being said, I wouldn't say it's the sole consideration. But then, neither are you. So everything's cushty
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The thing is, people tend to say 'it's not that important' when it's a question of Bristol or Nottingham; if it was a question of Bristol or Thames Valley, they might be more concerned.
I think TSR in general plays up uni reputations (probably to a more realisitc extent) than most people that I know, at least.
This being said, I wouldn't say it's the sole consideration. But then, neither are you. So everything's cushty
.Reply 11
maybe you can split uni reputation into top/middle/bottom categories but past that its not really worth considering.
Reply 13
popepius
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L i b
Completely disagree. Universities are not, and should not be, vocational colleges. Going to uni simply to get a job should certainly not be encouraged.
Moreover, what's so great about getting a job? If you're the sort of person who will compromise your happiness for four years simply to satisfy some potential future employer, I doubt you're ever going to be particularly content...
Moreover, what's so great about getting a job? If you're the sort of person who will compromise your happiness for four years simply to satisfy some potential future employer, I doubt you're ever going to be particularly content...
well im not going to be so imprudent to invest 20k+ into a **** uni
Reply 14
kaal1010
and look at john majors 'reign'
bottom/middle/top/oxbridge maybe?
bottom/middle/top/oxbridge maybe?
I wouldnt even split top and oxbridge. I mean yes its top 3 for every subject but there are still other places in the country that will equal if not better oxbridge individual schools in most fields.
popepius
well im not going to be so imprudent to invest 20k+ into a **** uni
Why not? You're there to be educated and to enjoy the experience.
If you want vocational training, go to a technical college and learn to be a ****ing plumber. That's not what university is about and, to be frank, if you think in such terms I doubt you'd gain much from going to a particularly 'top' university anyway.
Reply 17
popepius
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L i b
Why not? You're there to be educated and to enjoy the experience.
If you want vocational training, go to a technical college and learn to be a ****ing plumber. That's not what university is about and, to be frank, if you think in such terms I doubt you'd gain much from going to a particularly 'top' university anyway.
If you want vocational training, go to a technical college and learn to be a ****ing plumber. That's not what university is about and, to be frank, if you think in such terms I doubt you'd gain much from going to a particularly 'top' university anyway.
i dont understand why u brought vocational courses into it, considering i have higher ambitions and higher education is a means of attainment.
Reply 18
L i b
Why not? You're there to be educated and to enjoy the experience.
If you want vocational training, go to a technical college and learn to be a ****ing plumber. That's not what university is about and, to be frank, if you think in such terms I doubt you'd gain much from going to a particularly 'top' university anyway.
If you want vocational training, go to a technical college and learn to be a ****ing plumber. That's not what university is about and, to be frank, if you think in such terms I doubt you'd gain much from going to a particularly 'top' university anyway.
Apart from better job prospects, challenging work and better facilities?
Reply 19
popepius
well im not going to be so imprudent to invest 20k+ into a **** uni
what makes a university bad anyway??? all of them have their strengths, weaknesses and subject reputation
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