Instagram bans Warwick Rowers account
Instagram temporarily banned the account of the Warwick University rowing team, the lads who get naked for a calendar to raise awareness about homophobia and anti-LGBT discrimination (be still, my beating heart).
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
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I’m glad Instagram put it back up. I can understand that they’d want to remove sexual/pornographic content since that’s not what the app is for but these calendars are intended as just being a bit of a laugh for a good cause. Obviously the guys are attractive and that’s kind of what sells the calendars but the message and purpose is what matters.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
Original post by serions871
I’m glad Instagram put it back up. I can understand that they’d want to remove sexual/pornographic content since that’s not what the app is for but these calendars are intended as just being a bit of a laugh for a good cause. Obviously the guys are attractive and that’s kind of what sells the calendars but the message and purpose is what matters.
Exactly. The rowers are well aware that it's predominantly gay dudes drooling over their bodies, but the calendar is mostly quite wholesome and softcore. And the cause is an important one; I think the fact of who is making the calendar (mostly straight university rowers) is itself quite a statement.
I think Instagram could see that ultimately it is not a sordid enterprise. Also, the human body is not obscene or offensive. Obviously you don't want hardcore pornography on Instagram, but I think mere nudity in and of itself is not offensive at all and can be very beautiful. For example, the statue Marcellus as Hermes Logios (below). It is a thing of beauty, I don't see why an inanimate object should be considered beautiful art but the real thing might be deemed an obscenity.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
Oh wow, that's awesome. Good on you! It takes a lot of courage and self-confidence to do something like that, and for a good cause. Nice one, mate.
Tbh back when I was younger I had some pretty terrible hard right views ingrained in me (mostly due to conservative parents) including some homophobia, but I later came to realise that love is love and it’s best to focus on lgbt suicide and things that actually matter rather than homosexuality which harms none of us. I’m glad people across the world are becoming more tolerant of these things.
Original post by serions871
I’m glad Instagram put it back up. I can understand that they’d want to remove sexual/pornographic content since that’s not what the app is for but these calendars are intended as just being a bit of a laugh for a good cause. Obviously the guys are attractive and that’s kind of what sells the calendars but the message and purpose is what matters.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
I’m actually quite amazed at how people can do these calendars, isn’t it a bit, you know, awkward? I’m not nearly fearless enough for this kind of stuff lol
Original post by Ladbants
Tbh back when I was younger I had some pretty terrible hard right views ingrained in me (mostly due to conservative parents) including some homophobia, but I later came to realise that love is love and it’s best to focus on lgbt suicide and things that actually matter rather than homosexuality which harms none of us. I’m glad people across the world are becoming more tolerant of these things.
Nice one, dude. Well said. What you've described in your change of opinion has mirrored that change in society, where in a very short period homosexuality has gone from being considered weird and fringe-y to just ordinary, just one aspect of someone's life/personality.
It's hugely to our society's credit that we have made these changes and allowed gay people to 'assimilate' into mainstream life (because most gay people just want what other people want; marriage, kids, nice house, career, etc). I also think that this development is also positive for heterosexual people as well, because it presages overall an expansion of freedom and tolerance; I think society as a whole becomes more friendly and supportive to its own people.
Original post by Emms98
I’ve found that amongst educated 16-21 year olds in the UK it’s pretty much a non-issue, but there is still the odd bigot in every school who makes things difficult for those who are lgbt.
Absolutely. Being homophobic is now considered weird; people much more likely to look at someone as being a freak if they are ranting against gay people, than they would look that way at a gay person. Being awful to gay people used to be cost free, if anything it could earn you social credit, whereas now it's a person's right to be a bigoted ********, but they will pay a price for it socially.
Anyway, yeah they’re pretty hot
Totally
I like the one on the right, he's got a really nice bod. Not too skinny, he has a little bit of flesh on the bone. Cute smile, nice hair.
Original post by Ladbants
Tbh back when I was younger I had some pretty terrible hard right views ingrained in me (mostly due to conservative parents) including some homophobia, but I later came to realise that love is love and it’s best to focus on lgbt suicide and things that actually matter rather than homosexuality which harms none of us. I’m glad people across the world are becoming more tolerant of these things.
One other thing. I think the gay guys coming up now tend to be more 'normal' in their mannerism, in their masculine tendencies, than older gay guys. I fact, I have a theory about this.
Back in the olden days, when gay guys mainly met each other by going to gay pubs and bars, this environment encouraged effeminate conduct and mannerisms. The individuals who formed the core of that gay bar / pub world were often individuals who were very naturally effeminate and couldn't hide it and thus shunned by society (many might be rent boys, drag queens, and such), and so they set the tone of the establishments and of the 'gay world' as a whole. For the men who were not out and more masculine, and just came to the pubs/bars to meet someone, there was a peer pressure to adopt that sort of catty, effeminate mannerism. They thought that was what a 'real' gay person was like.
Now that gay guys can meet each other either in the normal course of their lives (because they will meet other out gay dudes), or online, that peer pressure to adopt effeminate ways has disappeared.
Now I do not condemn any person for being more effeminate / masculine, etc. And there are effeminate heterosexuals. But I think actually most gay guys are not naturally of an effeminate tendency and nowadays can be themselves rather than having to give in to peer pressure to act in that way, as used to be the case.
Interestingly, in ancient times it was almost a stereotype that a man who had lots of affairs with women would be quite effeminate, whereas a man who was homosexually-inclined would be more masculine in outlook and mannerism. There's an excellent passage from Pseudo-Lucian's text Amores, in which he outlines a debate between a guy who exclusively loves women and a guy who exclusively fancies dudes, that expresses this stereotype. Quoth;
Charicles a young man from Corinth who is not only handsome but shows some evidence of skilful use of cosmetics, because, I imagine, he wishes to attract the women, and with him Callicratidas, the Athenian, a man of straightforward ways. For he was pre-eminent among the leading figures in public speaking and in this forensic oratory of ours. He was also a devotee of physical training, though in my opinion he was only fond of the wrestling-schools because of his love for boys. For he was enthusiastic only for that
...
Now, even when they were entertaining me, I could see concrete evidence of the inclinations of each. For my Athenian friend was well provided with handsome slave-boys and all of his servants were pretty well beardless. They remained with him till the down first appeared on their faces, but, once any growth cast a shadow on their cheeks, they would be sent away to be overseers of his properties at Athens.
Charicles, however, had in attendance a large band of dancing girls and singing girls and all his house was as full of women as if it were the Thesmophoria, with not the slightest trace of male presence except that here and there could be seen an infant boy or a superannuated old cook whose age could give even the jealous no cause for suspicion. Well, these things were themselves, as I said, sufficient indications of the dispositions of both of them
...
Now, even when they were entertaining me, I could see concrete evidence of the inclinations of each. For my Athenian friend was well provided with handsome slave-boys and all of his servants were pretty well beardless. They remained with him till the down first appeared on their faces, but, once any growth cast a shadow on their cheeks, they would be sent away to be overseers of his properties at Athens.
Charicles, however, had in attendance a large band of dancing girls and singing girls and all his house was as full of women as if it were the Thesmophoria, with not the slightest trace of male presence except that here and there could be seen an infant boy or a superannuated old cook whose age could give even the jealous no cause for suspicion. Well, these things were themselves, as I said, sufficient indications of the dispositions of both of them
(NB The references to 'boys', to male youths, are references to those between the ages of perhaps 16 - 23, possibly like those in the Warwick calendar)
To a person in the classical world, these archetypes would be obvious and well-known to them; the effeminate man addicted to female love, the grave, gruff, masculine homosexually-inclined guy. Clearly modern sexuality is not quite the same thing as they're referring to in that passage, but I cite it to show how much these perceptions and stereotypes about people based on sexuality can be quite arbitrary and to a degree, random and dependent on the society in which you live.
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Original post by Emms98
I’m actually quite amazed at how people can do these calendars, isn’t it a bit, you know, awkward? I’m not nearly fearless enough for this kind of stuff lol
Tbh the calendar I took part in didn’t have nearly as many awkward and ‘touchy feely’ poses that the rowers have (I don’t think I would have been comfortable with doing the pose in OP’s photo lol) and didn’t go nearly as viral. It’s worth noting that people don’t really care that much, and they’re probably not going to recognise you
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Original post by serions871
I’m glad Instagram put it back up. I can understand that they’d want to remove sexual/pornographic content since that’s not what the app is for but these calendars are intended as just being a bit of a laugh for a good cause. Obviously the guys are attractive and that’s kind of what sells the calendars but the message and purpose is what matters.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
I actually took part in a similar uni calendar a while ago, although for a different good cause. I’m glad that Warwick have been able to raise so much money for these lgbt charities. These calendars take a lot of time and effort to produce, but they usually do a very good of raising money and awareness.
While the guys in the picture were likely doing it for a laugh the picture is still sexual. I’m not sure what they’re trying to raise awareness of, the existence of homosexual?
Original post by Emms98
I’ve found that amongst educated 16-21 year olds in the UK it’s pretty much a non-issue, but there is still the odd bigot in every school who makes things difficult for those who are lgbt.
Anyway, yeah they’re pretty hot
Anyway, yeah they’re pretty hot
I think there is still a number of people who aren't too pleased with the T part of that initialism and they aren't necessarily ostracised for it.
Hopefully they’ll raise a good amount for charity. A lot of calendars at other unis aren’t nearly as well made and don’t tend to raise that much.
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Original post by akbar0123
I think it’s tasteless tbh. There are many ways to raise money without selling naked pictures of oneself. Imagine if girls did this, everyone would be shocked and they’d be accused of selling out their bodies, and rightly so. The same should apply for men.
Actually, girls do do this and no one apart from a few religious fanatics finds it shocking or tasteless. There’s plenty of uni women’s naked calendars around. My netball team does one
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Original post by akbar0123
I think it’s tasteless tbh. There are many ways to raise money without selling naked pictures of oneself. Imagine if girls did this, everyone would be shocked and they’d be accused of selling out their bodies, and rightly so. The same should apply for men.
Why's it tasteless? It's just a human body.Nothing to be ashamed of there. The only people who think that these things are shameful is the religious.
Original post by Underscore__
While the guys in the picture were likely doing it for a laugh the picture is still sexual. I’m not sure what they’re trying to raise awareness of, the existence of homosexual?
Why is the picture sexual? Nudity is not necessarily sexual.
Also, they’re raising awareness of lgbt issues and are raising money for the charity lgbt allies
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Original post by AlexanderHam
Instagram temporarily banned the account of the Warwick University rowing team, the lads who get naked for a calendar to raise awareness about homophobia and anti-LGBT discrimination (be still, my beating heart).
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
LOL at the second one from the left
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Original post by AlexanderHam
Instagram temporarily banned the account of the Warwick University rowing team, the lads who get naked for a calendar to raise awareness about homophobia and anti-LGBT discrimination (be still, my beating heart).
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/19/the-banned-warwick-rowers-pictures-that-instagram-didnt-want-you-to-see/
I'm glad the account is back up, the fact that these (presumably) mostly straight dudes will do a calendar to raise money for this cause is excellent evidence of how far LGBT rights have come in recent years. As recently as fifteen years ago, people were terrified to be associated even vaguely with homosexuals. Now, I'd say we pretty much have equal rights. There are still a few knuckle-dragging neanderthals around, but the battle has been mostly won.
Now, for the purposes of... ahem... explanation, I'm obviously compelled to add a picture.
The reason Instagram ban the account was because there were naked people.
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