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Mini-pupillage application query

I am currently in the process of applying to a few chambers for a mini-pupillage. Whilst in the past, I have undertaken: vacation placements at large commercial law firms and work experience placements at small high-street firms (in which I spent quite a lot of time shadowing a solicitor at court), I haven't done a mini-pupillage in the past.

I'm a bit concerned that most of my C.V. therefore will come across as being more tailored towards someone who is more interested in becoming a solicitor.

Obviously, in other areas of my C.V. I have talked about my experiences in mooting; debating & negotitating and public-speaking, but will this be enough to suggest that I am actually really interested in becoming a barrister at this chambers?

Thanks for your help!
Reply 1
Sound as arrogant as possible and include a joke about solicitors as the preface.
Reply 2
Well, actually(!), I'm also quite concerned that I'm saying 'I this...' and 'I that...' too frequently in my covering letters. But I'll take a look at that again once I've gotten all the substantive points that I want to make in.

I should also add that I'm in my third year of studying law at university. Last year, I only applied for vacation schemes and training contracts. Now, I've decided that I want to go down the barrister route instead. I realise that this may mean having to apply for entry onto the BVC next year now; but its still what I want to do.
Reply 3
Your CV is what it is. I think you should put down all of your solicitor-based work experience as this will show that you are interested in a career in law. I think that the covering letter is the place to justify why you are now applying for mini-pupillages. You could say something like "after gaining extensive work experience in a variety of solicitor's firms I have decided that I am better suited to a career as a barrister." Obviously you'd word it much better and expand on it, but I'd definitely use your placements to show that your decision to pursue a career as a barrister is well-informed.

I wouldn't worry too much about putting 'I this...' and 'I that...' After all, your CV and covering letter are opportunities to really sell yourself and say why you should be chosen for the job. If your covering letter is really impersonal then the person reading it won't really get a sense of who you are.
Reply 4
lawstudent17
I am currently in the process of applying to a few chambers for a mini-pupillage. Whilst in the past, I have undertaken: vacation placements at large commercial law firms and work experience placements at small high-street firms (in which I spent quite a lot of time shadowing a solicitor at court), I haven't done a mini-pupillage in the past.

I'm a bit concerned that most of my C.V. therefore will come across as being more tailored towards someone who is more interested in becoming a solicitor.

Obviously, in other areas of my C.V. I have talked about my experiences in mooting; debating & negotitating and public-speaking, but will this be enough to suggest that I am actually really interested in becoming a barrister at this chambers?

Thanks for your help!


Hi

I wouldn't worry about any of this. Infact most chanbers do it by their own application form or even just by lucky dip. Simon Myerson has written a draft letter on this forum you should do a search for. I managed to get offered a few and I had no relelvent experience - everyone has got to start somewhere. What I did say on the app is that I was willing to do it anytime in the next couple of years, so I didn't restrict my chances in any way. When it comes to your real CV in a couple of years it will be good to have seen the profession from both sides.
Reply 5
Generally speaking, I think it's fairly easy to get mini-pupillages, unless you are applying to the really top sets. You sound like you have a decent CV and so if you come across as enthusiastic in your covering letter then I'm sure that you'll have no problem. I know somebody who has done twelve mini-pupillages so far, and is only in his second year.
Reply 6
^^ Yeah it is easy to get mini-pupillages. I've never been turned down for one even at some really good London sets.
Reply 7
It's not fair to give someone a false sense of security and effectively risk making them doubt themselves if they get rejected for a mini-pupillage. It is NOT EASY TO GET A MINI-PUPILLAGE unless you are applying for the sets whose reputations are very much rivalled - if they have a reputation at all. I have applied for a couple of mini-pupillages and sadly been rejected - I attend an excellent university, have an honourable mention for a very well recognised international mooting competition and my latest finals are all above 65. I have done volunteering, had leading roles in performances of the Law Drama society and have been a member of a student advisory panel. I haven't yet done a mini-pupillage.

So again ---> rubbish that it's easy to get a mini-pupillage. Unless of course you're one of the many whose parents are already in the business! It's not meant to be easy, it's meant to be extremely competitive and difficult to that they only attract the creme de la creme.
Reply 8
Katie711
It's not fair to give someone a false sense of security and effectively risk making them doubt themselves if they get rejected for a mini-pupillage. It is NOT EASY TO GET A MINI-PUPILLAGE unless you are applying for the sets whose reputations are very much rivalled - if they have a reputation at all. I have applied for a couple of mini-pupillages and sadly been rejected - I attend an excellent university, have an honourable mention for a very well recognised international mooting competition and my latest finals are all above 65. I have done volunteering, had leading roles in performances of the Law Drama society and have been a member of a student advisory panel. I haven't yet done a mini-pupillage.

So again ---> rubbish that it's easy to get a mini-pupillage. Unless of course you're one of the many whose parents are already in the business! It's not meant to be easy, it's meant to be extremely competitive and difficult to that they only attract the creme de la creme.


Its not that easy no, but i don't know anyone who didnt eventually get something. It is a struggle to get to the bar and thats just it, even most of the top candidates will be rejected from somewhere eventually. Just keep persevering and make sure you follow the application process they advise on their website. If you applied to only one strada of sets (eg Brick Court/Blackstones) try some in lower bands and get an idea of where you fit, get advice on your CV and covering letter etc
Reply 9
FMQ
Its not that easy no, but i don't know anyone who didnt eventually get something. It is a struggle to get to the bar and thats just it, even most of the top candidates will be rejected from somewhere eventually. Just keep persevering and make sure you follow the application process they advise on their website. If you applied to only one strada of sets (eg Brick Court/Blackstones) try some in lower bands and get an idea of where you fit, get advice on your CV and covering letter etc


On a somewhat related note, is there a disadvantage to applying for a mini-pupillage at top sets (I'm interested in Blackstones in particular, but other sets in the same strata) more than once? Since Blackstones are already accepting applications for 2011, I'd like to put my name forward. I don't want to prejudice a later application, however, when I'm beginning to look seriously for a pupillage proper. If there's no particular harm in reapplying, then I might as well try now. If it could harm my chances later, I'll lower my sights a bit this time round and then aim higher when I apply for summer 2011/12.
Reply 10
jjarvis
On a somewhat related note, is there a disadvantage to applying for a mini-pupillage at top sets (I'm interested in Blackstones in particular, but other sets in the same strata) more than once? Since Blackstones are already accepting applications for 2011, I'd like to put my name forward. I don't want to prejudice a later application, however, when I'm beginning to look seriously for a pupillage proper. If there's no particular harm in reapplying, then I might as well try now. If it could harm my chances later, I'll lower my sights a bit this time round and then aim higher when I apply for summer 2011/12.


From what i know they don't seem to keep a note of your application, so you shouldn't be prejudiced. However if they reject you once, unless something on your CV substantially changes they are likely to reject you again. Also if such a set is your dream set it is worth doing a mini somewhere less important to you first, so you can get a feel for the experience somewhre "it doesn't matter" first, and perform to your best at the sets you really want.
Reply 11
FMQ
From what i know they don't seem to keep a note of your application, so you shouldn't be prejudiced. However if they reject you once, unless something on your CV substantially changes they are likely to reject you again. Also if such a set is your dream set it is worth doing a mini somewhere less important to you first, so you can get a feel for the experience somewhre "it doesn't matter" first, and perform to your best at the sets you really want.


Ah, that's a great point. The major changes in my CV would be starting at Cambridge, marks from 1B in the tripos, and other legal experience. Great point about getting a mini somewhere less intense, especially since minis are assessed at Blackstone and a crucial part of the pupillage application process. Thanks.
I trust you've checked out Blackstone's recent tenants jjarvis. They're more than stellar...
Reply 13
dalianatkinson
I trust you've checked out Blackstone's recent tenants jjarvis. They're more than stellar...


I have, yes. I'm not in any way expecting to get a pupillage there, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. It doesn't take a tremendous amount of work to do the mini-pupillage application.

I wouldn't dream of applying for a mini-p there without a first in my first degree and a first in Part I-B of the Tripos.