Therefore NI is a red herring as far as Brexit is concerned,
I've thought all along this has been made out to be a bigger problem than it actually is, as an excuse to either not leave the EU properly (i.e. CU and SM) or to not have Brexit at all.
At the end of the day, the UK has come out and said they will never put a border with customs posts up between Ireland and NI.. the Irish government have said they will never put a border up, the EU have assured the Irish they won't have to, the WTO has even said there doesn't have to be a border, and goods flowing between two countries is down to those two countries to determine how this change is governed, and that they would only intervene with a dispute from one of the WTO members. So if it came to a no deal, then who is going to 'erect' this magic border?
All we need to do is propose an international treaty reaffirming that we'd never put up a border, and ask the Irish and EU to sign it. If they refuse, questions would be asked about their real motives in all of this and they would look incredibly stupid after their commitment to the GFA, so of course they would sign it. That then would shift over completely any potential problems to the WTO side of things, say if a country from outside of the EU has reason to think we're treating them unfairly because we're doing full checks on their goods but not across the Irish border. But those disputes take about 18 months and they're complciated and gruelling, so which country is going to go through all that for the sake of a 300 mile border where a tiny percentage of trade flow between the UK and the EU takes place? I mean really? There'll be goods checks everywhere else like Dover - Calais, Rotterdam- Felixstowe etc. so would any WTO member really think this is worth a longwinded dispute? I very highly doubt it. At the very worst we might have to offer to add pre-departure declaration via electronics, but with no customs posts, and no deadline date. Any gradual work towards some kind of light checks would render any dispute meaningless.
It's just so infuriating how remain politicians and many news outlets are talking as though this border issue somehow majorly hinders Brexit, and that a no deal = a border appearing as though it's a stonewall fact. It blatantly isn't the case at all.
Were we to leave without a deal, the boot would be on the other foot. Then it's up to them whether they want a wall or not, it could be the Irish flying to Brussels instead of May.
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Poll out today shows 57% for a united Ireland post-Brexit.