PSA: Most Degrees are worthless!

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Original post by Duncan2012

Well, when/if you do eventually get to university please make a point of telling all non-STEM lecturers what you think of their chosen careers and paths. I’m sure they’d give your opinion the due consideration it deserves. Presumably you’d also want them to shut all social science faculties, arts faculties, language labs, English departments...

I recognise that humanity subjects have academic value and I am more than happy for people to study them and become professors. However, I hate that my parents have to subsidise these subjects which do not produce anything of value for themselves. They have worked hard all of their lives so that they can fund middle class poshos to become 'enlightened' etc.

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Original post by nepalm

how about architecture

I haven't looked into architecture much but I imagine it is quite oversaturated. Not sure about it unless you get into a good uni.

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nepalm

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Original post by JB2001

I haven't looked into architecture much but I imagine it is quite oversaturated. Not sure about it unless you get into a good uni.

wbich unis are the best to go in the midlands

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Original post by nepalm

wbich unis are the best to go in the midlands

It varies from subject to subject. If you want to study architecture, just search for 'top universities for architecture', then pick the best one closest to you I guess.

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Conniestitution

You are aware that not everyone with a STEM degree will have a career as a scientist or engineer forever? People change over time. Is their degree now worthless to you (and your parent’s money) because they don’t work in the field?
A degree is a degree, it gets respect - some jobs just require that level of education without any further specifics. There’s very little use forcing everyone to study STEM subjects when there aren’t enough jobs going in that field to make the hard work worth it.

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Original post by Conniestitution

You are aware that not everyone with a STEM degree will have a career as a scientist or engineer forever? People change over time. Is their degree now worthless to you (and your parent’s money) because they don’t work in the field?
A degree is a degree, it gets respect - some jobs just require that level of education without any further specifics. There’s very little use forcing everyone to study STEM subjects when there aren’t enough jobs going in that field to make the hard work worth it.

Hard question. I would argue that people studying STEM want to actually work and produce something in society. So even if they are not working in their field they are probably doing something else worthwhile. Also, the fact that jobs like marketing etc require degrees is absolutely ridiculous - it is keeping people ages 16 - 22 from working! And I do not want everyone to study STEM. Obviously if you hate STEM you shouldn't study it. But if you don't study it it is pointless going to university, just work.

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Duncan2012

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Original post by JB2001

I recognise that humanity subjects have academic value and I am more than happy for people to study them and become professors. However, I hate that my parents have to subsidise these subjects which do not produce anything of value for themselves. They have worked hard all of their lives so that they can fund middle class poshos to become 'enlightened' etc.

I can’t tell if you’re an arrogant t**t, a clueless idiot with a chip on your shoulder, or an unfunny troll. I hope no-one out there takes any notice of your ‘advice’. I hope that one day you’ll be mature enough to see what a ridiculous thread this is.

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Conniestitution

Original post by JB2001

Hard question. I would argue that people studying STEM want to actually work and produce something in society. So even if they are not working in their field they are probably doing something else worthwhile. Also, the fact that jobs like marketing etc require degrees is absolutely ridiculous - it is keeping people ages 16 - 22 from working! And I do not want everyone to study STEM. Obviously if you hate STEM you shouldn't study it. But if you don't study it it is pointless going to university, just work.

See, that’s what I’m saying. Your idea of other subjects being excluded means we’ll have a less varied society, and some people who excel in humanities or languages wouldn’t end up as educated as they could be. It also means that (as some people naturally would want to attend university to get good jobs) lots of people studying the STEM subjects wouldn’t actually have a passion for them. This would result in over-saturation of the field, and lots of students who lose their passion for learning.

Your opinion on jobs like marketing requiring degrees is purely your own. It makes sense that companies would want to hire people who have proven they understand their job and can work hard in something that relates to their chosen field of work (business, economics, perhaps even media). Going to university also proves that, to some extent, you’re relatively smart. But once again, under your system, those without an aptitude for the sciences cannot be smart.

Overall, there’s just not enough full time jobs with training (and progression opportunities) to stick every 18 year old in one if they don’t want to study STEM or Law. Our economy doesn’t work that way. As it is, there’s a lack of part time jobs for students.

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For the record I forgot to add accounting to my list, so there is that. I'm noticing alot of negativity from people who either study liberal arts or who are proffesional students. The reality is that you do not need a degree to work your average office job. I'm sorry if I offended anyone who refuses to live outside the sheltered society of higher education. This thread has made me realise how stupid people who study this worthless crap actually are! Acting as if paying a university £40,000 to read a few books proves you are smart. SMART! HAHAHAHAHAH

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Pugglet

Ah yes love hearing my degree, my parents degrees being called worthless. Makes all the hard work worth it

Dude I know I ain’t smart, took me three years to do alevels, but I got where I want to be

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Original post by Pugglet

Ah yes love hearing my degree, my parents degrees being called worthless. Makes all the hard work worth it

Dude I know I ain’t smart, took me three years to do alevels, but I got where I want to be

I'm glad you got to where you want to be.

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codecommand

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Good post, however I believe that all the waste subjects like media studies, art, drama etc they should need upfront payment to the government/uni and no loans should be given out because people that study these subjects will never earn more than £20,000!

Some uni subjects are so pointless, I think to myself why do people study that sort of thing... it's their choice but a bad life decision at best.

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TripleSlash

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ITT:
The funniest word-sparring sessions I have ever seen in my life.
The level of competence of subjects involved in the debates whoose debating skills are in-and-of-themselves debatable are in the overly-vocal minority.

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Pugglet