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Ok so I'm doing games design in college at the moment (England), and I want to go to Uni and carry on games design, however I also want to go in the army, there's a few reasons, firstly I feel that I'd be able to save up quite a lot of money from it if i stay in for about 3 years where I will nearly be able to pay off my uni debt, then I would hopefully like to go uni once i come back from the army after around 3 years. And stay in Uni for around 3 or years so that I can get my degree in games design. Is this a good idea or am i being an idiot here? Please give me feedback and be completely honest with me here because i don't want to **** up my life.

Also will going in the army effect me getting a job to do with games design or a decent job in general?
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Only go into the army if you want to don’t do it for the money it is a serious thing and if you don’t want it and accept that then what’s the point you could come out a changed person possibly in a bad way — uni you can get grants and stuff I get the whole expensive thing but if you are good and I mean good and really want it then you will find a way to get there army or not but don’t take the army lightly it’s a serious thing no toys x
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Only go into the army if you want to don’t do it for the money it is a serious thing and if you don’t want it and accept that then what’s the point you could come out a changed person possibly in a bad way — uni you can get grants and stuff I get the whole expensive thing but if you are good and I mean good and really want it then you will find a way to get there army or not but don’t take the army lightly it’s a serious thing no toys x
Well it's not just the money I've also wanted to go in the army for a very long time anyway just because I find it to be an interesting life style. But I don't know what i'd do when I come out of the army if I do decide to go, i've heard that it's hard to get a job for a lot of people that come out of the army?
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If you really want to do it what does it matter the after deal with the here and now?? Depending if you have a family network and how you are once you leave the army is all what makes a job easy or difficult after so focus on here and now if you can what you want now not in 5/10 years
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Ok so I'm doing games design in college at the moment (England), and I want to go to Uni and carry on games design, however I also want to go in the army, there's a few reasons, firstly I feel that I'd be able to save up quite a lot of money from it if i stay in for about 3 years where I will nearly be able to pay off my uni debt, then I would hopefully like to go uni once i come back from the army after around 3 years. And stay in Uni for around 3 or years so that I can get my degree in games design. Is this a good idea or am i being an idiot here? Please give me feedback and be completely honest with me here because i don't want to **** up my life.

Also will going in the army effect me getting a job to do with games design or a decent job in general?
That's not how the army works darling.
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That's not how the army works darling.
What do you mean?
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If you really want to do it what does it matter the after deal with the here and now?? Depending if you have a family network and how you are once you leave the army is all what makes a job easy or difficult after so focus on here and now if you can what you want now not in 5/10 years
Because my main goal is to become a games designer, being in the army is basically something on the side.
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What do you mean?
The army isn't there to be a side job and clearly you know absolutely nothing about the army if you think it would cause problems getting another job, I don't even think you respect the army enough to join.

You in the army is dangerous, I hope they don't let you in, your attitude is wrong.
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Ok so I'm doing games design in college at the moment (England), and I want to go to Uni and carry on games design, however I also want to go in the army, there's a few reasons, firstly I feel that I'd be able to save up quite a lot of money from it if i stay in for about 3 years where I will nearly be able to pay off my uni debt, then I would hopefully like to go uni once i come back from the army after around 3 years. And stay in Uni for around 3 or years so that I can get my degree in games design. Is this a good idea or am i being an idiot here? Please give me feedback and be completely honest with me here because i don't want to **** up my life.

Also will going in the army effect me getting a job to do with games design or a decent job in general?
Try joining the reserves first, you'll get a feel for it and that is 'something on the side' going over to worn torn countries as a solider is not.
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Try joining the reserves first, you'll get a feel for it and that is 'something on the side' going over to worn torn countries as a solider is not.
That's a good idea actually. The way I said it may have come across as I don't care about the army at all though but I really do I've wanted to go in for years, but I just don't want to be im it for like 10 years, I only want to be in it for about 3
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That's a good idea actually. The way I said it may have come across as I don't care about the army at all though but I really do I've wanted to go in for years, but I just don't want to be im it for like 10 years, I only want to be in it for about 3
You'll barely be trained after 3 years. You need to spend longer there if you want the benefits.
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Ok so I'm doing games design in college at the moment (England), and I want to go to Uni and carry on games design, however I also want to go in the army, there's a few reasons, firstly I feel that I'd be able to save up quite a lot of money from it if i stay in for about 3 years where I will nearly be able to pay off my uni debt, then I would hopefully like to go uni once i come back from the army after around 3 years. And stay in Uni for around 3 or years so that I can get my degree in games design. Is this a good idea or am i being an idiot here? Please give me feedback and be completely honest with me here because i don't want to **** up my life.

Also will going in the army effect me getting a job to do with games design or a decent job in general?

Why not join the army reserves whilst you study, and then join upon graduation? You get paid to be in the army reserves, sometimes universities have their own 'units', can't remember what they are called but they fit better around study.

Also, pretty sure you have to do at least 4 years in the army, and that you get a decent cash bonus after 4 years and 5 years service called a "commitment bonus" (few grand after tax each time I think) So you need to factor that into your equations.

Think you get 'bounties' of about £1000 for each training level you complete in the reserves too.
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Try joining the reserves first, you'll get a feel for it and that is 'something on the side' going over to worn torn countries as a solider is not.
Army Reserves can still get deployed.

They get paid a full time wage whilst deployed. Employers are legally obliged to give you the 6 months off to do a tour.

Reserves were employed to Afghanistan. Its not some sort of social club, they can and do see action.
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Have you thought about the RAF?
You can still be in uni while in the RAF and gain many transferable skills 😊
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I already know I'm going to get **** for this, but I stand by my views and I couldn't not reply. You can go on for ages trying to justify it, I've already heard all the arguments, but bottom line, if you're in the army you're supporting murder. Even if you aren't doing it yourself, the army is responsible for innocent lives. Keep yourself away from all that, and don't fall for all the propeganda you see around you. Sure, you may gain some skills, like flying for example, but you'll learn much more by going to uni where you can make a positive contribution to society instead of one based on hate and destruction. Just think about it a little longer, because it's not just about ****ing up your life; turn on the news and you'll see that.
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I already know I'm going to get **** for this, but I stand by my views and I couldn't not reply. You can go on for ages trying to justify it, I've already heard all the arguments, but bottom line, if you're in the army you're supporting murder. Even if you aren't doing it yourself, the army is responsible for innocent lives. Keep yourself away from all that, and don't fall for all the propeganda you see around you. Sure, you may gain some skills, like flying for example, but you'll learn much more by going to uni where you can make a positive contribution to society instead of one based on hate and destruction. Just think about it a little longer, because it's not just about ****ing up your life; turn on the news and you'll see that.
I'm assuming you haven't heard about any of the humanitarian stuff that the British Army does then?... Or the fact that they aren't currently in a combat role in any country, just training the local armies?...
Your opinion is your own, just wanna point out that you'll probably get **** for it because you make a lot of negative statements without any facts to back it up.

To the OP, I'd suggest you wait until after Uni to decide if it's what you truly want because it is a real commitment with risks to it. I was in your position a few years ago and now that I've graduated I have decided to join after all. You're in no rush and most people these days wont get the chance to pay off their uni debts in full so no point worrying about that.
I'd suggest you go to a university that has a University Officer Training Corps (UOTC) as they give you a taste of what the training and life will be like without the commitment of being a regular or reserve, and if I remember correctly then they pay you for training that you do (same as they do in the reserves).

Hope this helps, if you need to ask anything I'm more than happy to help! :hello:
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I disagree with your opinion.
The British military defend our country, they serve here and abroad to protect us all- often at great personal cost to themselves and their own families.
Consider the number of army heroes who have fought with honour under the toughest conditions imaginable, sustained life changing injuries and died doing their utmost to keep this country safe.

Britain's army, navy and RAF operate in accordance with the Geneva Convention, Hague Convention and the UK's own stringent armed conflict rules.
It is untrue and appalling to accuse the military of "supporting murder... hate and destruction".
In WW2 Britain's military forces battled the Nazis- our freedom came at the cost of the blood, sweat and lives of over 380,000 British soldiers.
Even with mounting casualties and in the darkest of times, our soldiers preferred death and disablement fighting Hitler's forces to surrender.

Serving soldiers and military veterans make an amazing positive contribution to so many fields- defence of the nation, guarding secure sites, rescuing desperate civilians in the aftermath of flood disasters, counselling, school teachers and medics.

I am not from a military family and have never served.
My father is a socialist revolutionary, very hostile to the military and vicious to veterans.
He was born post war and refuses to acknowledge that the military saved us all from Hitler and his Nazis.
I grew up hearing my father bellow the same sort of things that you have written.
History and reality prove both of you wrong.


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I already know I'm going to get **** for this, but I stand by my views and I couldn't not reply. You can go on for ages trying to justify it, I've already heard all the arguments, but bottom line, if you're in the army you're supporting murder. Even if you aren't doing it yourself, the army is responsible for innocent lives. Keep yourself away from all that, and don't fall for all the propeganda you see around you. Sure, you may gain some skills, like flying for example, but you'll learn much more by going to uni where you can make a positive contribution to society instead of one based on hate and destruction. Just think about it a little longer, because it's not just about ****ing up your life; turn on the news and you'll see that.
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