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Speeding = 3 points on my license - HELP!

Hi,

I passed my driving test 6 months ago and today I was out when a speed camera flashed me twice and now I think I'm going to be fined and have points on my license.

Now the details: The reason I feel rather hard done by is because I am generally a very very careful driver. I passed my first test with only one fault, never drink a sip before driving, don't even listen to the radio in the car so I can concentrate and normally keep my eye very closely on the speed limit, aiming for 28/29 in a 30 area, 38ish in a 40 area. So if anything I normally drive a bit slowly because drivers generally drive a couple of miles above the speed limit.

Today, however, I was very upset and worried for a personal reason. I wasn't concentrating properly and was absolutely shocked to see that I was driving at 35 mph in a 30 zone. I put my foot on the brake, and, just at that moment a yellow speed camera appeared right in front of me and flashed me twice.

I know I WAS speeding and maybe I deserve to be punished. Coming in addition, and partly because of, my other personal troubles, this just seems very harsh. I'll have to pay 60 pounds, which I can barely afford, and get 3 points on my license for four years, which will make my insurance shoot up, which I CAN'T afford, and doesn't look good. Plus, if anything else happened and I got another 3 points, as a newly qualified driver I would lose my license, which could make me lose my job and I'd be unable to get to and from university next year.

I feel really down about this. Have I definitely got a ticket? What should I do? Can I appeal? Would it be very wrong to claim that I wasn't speeding when I know I was? Is there any way I can get out of this? Or should I just accept it?

In which case...how much does not having a clean driving license affect you? What percentage of the population do or don't have it? Do I have to declare it to other insurance companies/employers? Will my insurance really shoot up?

I know I was wrong to speed but it just feels very unfair. Thousands of drivers speed recklessly on the roads every day and do not get caught. Apart from today I have always driven under the speed limit and am generally a very patient and careful driver. My friends even tease me about this. I was particularly upset today and my mind was somewhere else. I did not even notice the speed camera in front of me.

What should I do?

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Reply 1
Well sorry, but tough **** springs to mind.

You could plead your case to the court however and see how far you get, and say it could affect your job and you can't afford the fine and all the rest. But if you can't afford a £60 fine, i struggle to see how you can afford to run a car which costs at least £30 a week in fuel.

You will have to go to court. (which is even more expensive)
Reply 2
Cheer up mate. It's a tough situation for you, especially as you only have 6 points in the first two years. Anyway the NIP letter will come in 14 days if you have got one, if not you've got off. As they must send you this within 16 days I believe.

Now I would never advocate the following, but some people find out what speed camera it was, and see if it captures the picture of the driver. And I will leave the rest to your imagination.

But just take the 3 points if you get, and take them on the chin!
Reply 3
My dads been driving for nearly 40 years and only ever got one speeding fine, for doing 35 in a 30 when driving back from my uncles funeral. He just paid the fine and had done with it.

On the plus side it shouldn't make any difference to your insurance and it probably won't happen again.

So many people have points on their license that it is not really a big deal anymore.
Reply 4
I wouldnt be so sure about it not effecting insurance with new drivers, but it wont be astronomical. It's just hard luck I'm afraid; if you're very lucky, being a first offence and new driver, yuo may get the option to take an awareness course, but be warned, they're not cheap. Harsh as it seems, you may just want to take it on the chin and stump up the fine and learning from it, as even though taking it to court MAY get you off if very lucky and have the right circumstances, or it may just be an expensive waste of time. there are sites such as pepipoo.com, but be warned that much of the 'get out of speeding' routes will land you in even more trouble/loss.
you have to declare it when asked - usually for insurance and job purposes (if you have to drive for work)

a lot of peopel have points - you will just have to be mega careful from now on
Reply 6
can i take a speeding awareness course instead then, as i was definitely driving under 38mph? would prefer this even though it is more expensive as i am worried about the points.
Reply 7
If that is offered to you then yeh!
Reply 8
isn't it available to every first offence driver travelling under 38mph???
Reply 9
Not in my area, but it is if you commit the offence 100 yards down the road in Bracknell Forest and not Hart Council!

So it totally depends on your local police force.
Reply 10
Oh well, you'll know for next time.
Reply 11
LOL, this is comedy, so because you were concentrating on personal problems you shouldn't get a fine? That's life luv, we all have problems, we all make mistakes, and we all cock-up. As somebody else said, tough ****. Take them on the chin. It's only 3 points, start worrying when you have 8 :wink:
Three more and it's game over.


Reply 13
Ask to see the photos then get your rents to take it if they cant prove your driving.

Speed cameras suck though, they take no account of other factors, nor do they pick up drunk drivers (who statistically tend to drive below the speed limit) wheras traffic cops can ask questions and use discression.

However, at the end of the day, **** happens im afraid.
Cj-Tj
Ask to see the photos then get your rents to take it if they cant prove your driving.


To escape a £60 fine and three points you would risk a jail sentence for perverting the course of justice? You have a strange attitude to risk management. There have been several case in the last year or so where exactly that happened.
Reply 15
Good bloke
To escape a £60 fine and three points you would risk a jail sentence for perverting the course of justice? You have a strange attitude to risk management. There have been several case in the last year or so where exactly that happened.


There have been even more cases where there have been no consiquences what so ever. I havent done it, but know quite a few who have. Its simply an option the OP might want to consider.
Reply 16
Barny
LOL, this is comedy, so because you were concentrating on personal problems you shouldn't get a fine? That's life luv, we all have problems, we all make mistakes, and we all cock-up. As somebody else said, tough ****. Take them on the chin. It's only 3 points, start worrying when you have 8 :wink:


Oh **** off and stop patronising me. I never said I shouldn't get a fine - in fact I said maybe I should. I was merely explaining that I am NOT a dangerous driver and do not typically drive above the speed limit.

And I intend to start worrying before I have eight as six points would make me lose my license and my job. So all I'd have to do is drift over the limit ONCE in one and a half years. I think I'm allowed to worry.
Lols. Its 3 points, not the end of life as you know it. Calm down.
Reply 18
Lozzie_1990
I feel really down about this. Have I definitely got a ticket? What should I do? Can I appeal? Would it be very wrong to claim that I wasn't speeding when I know I was? Is there any way I can get out of this? Or should I just accept it?


Well, if you want a couple of months in the jug for perjury, then I suggest you take this course of action.

I'm less worried about the fact you were speeding than the fact that you didn't notice a massive yellow speed camera with road markings etc, when you were going at 35 mph.

I know I was wrong to speed but it just feels very unfair. Thousands of drivers speed recklessly on the roads every day and do not get caught.


Those of us who do actually put a good deal of work into not getting caught. I'm always on my guard for the law.

In other words, if you're going to commit crime and want to get away with it, it will require some actual effort.
Reply 19
Lozzie_1990
And I intend to start worrying before I have eight as six points would make me lose my license and my job. So all I'd have to do is drift over the limit ONCE in one and a half years. I think I'm allowed to worry.


You know, my parents have gone their entire lives without getting a speeding ticket, and they break the speed limit all the time. I'm in roughly the same position and I have been driving for three years.

I'm sorry, but a 'good' driver does not just 'drift' into such things. If you don't think you can go a year and a half without getting caught for speeding, even with so much at stake, then you quite simply shouldn't be on the roads.