Would one module at 2:2 ruin pupillage chances (commercial law)?

My set isn't one of those that asks for a full module breakdown (as you say, there aren't many of them), but I would be surprised if a single 2:2 grade meant that you wouldn't get an interview. Applicants for pupillage have a tendency to focus heavily on individual aspects of their application, whereas most sifting processes are more holistic than that. It may be that if you're looking at one of the elite sets the calibre of competition is so high that the one 2:2 grade does hamper you, but realistically for most sets that simply won't matter. Even in the event that it does affect you at one or two sets, for most it won't, so I wouldn't be concerned about it as regards your chances of securing pupillage as a whole.

Thank you Jamie. Do you practise in London? The odd thing is, some sets which are very 'elite' don't ask for a full break down (e.g. Erskine in London, a company law set), whereas a few good, but slightly less prestigious sets (which I was thinking of applying to) do. In any case, most of the Chambers I would apply to don't ask for that.

Thank you Jamie. Do you practise in London? The odd thing is, some sets which are very 'elite' don't ask for a full break down (e.g. Erskine in London, a company law set), whereas a few good, but slightly less prestigious sets (which I was thinking of applying to) do. In any case, most of the Chambers I would apply to don't ask for that.

I don't think your application would be put in the bin. But, given the sheer number of applicants with Firsts, it might be wise to improve/emphasise your extra-curriculars/mooting/pro-bono experience to make your application as competitive as possible. I'm pretty sure Erskine do ask for a full break down though.

I don't think your application would be put in the bin. But, given the sheer number of applicants with Firsts, it might be wise to improve/emphasise your extra-curriculars/mooting/pro-bono experience to make your application as competitive as possible .

On the most recent application form (put online in late 2017), they didn't; just asked for degree class, and then to note 2 or 3 module marks from final year. And then from any other degree you've done, if I remember correctly.

No, they definitely do. See p.4 and 5 of the form: http://www.erskinechambers.com/pupillage/.
I distinctly remember because they asked me about my Mods marks during my interview. All the best with the application

Thank you, I'm still thinking about whether I'll apply or not later this year on the BPTC. What did they ask you about your Mods? How can they ask questions about numbers you've written down on a page? Haha.

Thank you, I'm still thinking about whether I'll apply or not later this year on the BPTC. What did they ask you about your Mods? How can they ask questions about numbers you've written down on a page? Haha.

No problem, happy to help. They just asked me about one Mods mark that was lower than the others, nothing scary!

....Also, it's probably worthwhile applying this year, nothing ventured nothing gained. I take it Erskine one of your target sets? They do pretty decent mini-pupillages.

Thanks, I was considering Erskine, but I don't fancy my chances there, given the calibre of the applicants they must generally get!

Ha, it was! But I think they were simply making conversation. I'm no expert on this, but I think people tend to worry about module marks too much. If you like a set, and get through to interview, then it all comes down to your performance on the day. I don't believe sets obsess over individual marks - even somewhere like Erskine.

Thank you for this, I hope that you're right.....I was expecting them to look at you sternly, and ask, 'is there any explanation for this grade?'

I just wondered why some sets ask for every single module mark, if it doesn't matter that much. I always thought that paper sift was quick, and surely having to read through every mark in every year, at university and also in subsequent degrees if you've done them, would take too much time.

Many places, even very elite ones, just ask for degree class.

I have no idea why I'm afraid!

Many places, even very elite ones, just ask for degree class.

I thought that virtually all non-gateway commercial and/or chancery sets asked for module marks. (...) Filling in the forms isn't that onerous.

Future pupil (2019/2020).