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Today is Bastille day, commemorating the fall of the Bastille prison to french revolutionaries after rising against what they understood as an unfair system. What are your thoughts on it? Was it good/bad for the country? Did it ultimately cause that much change?
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The poor commoners had become disgusted by the character of those in authority who lived in luxury while people lacked bread. Religious freedom had been outlawed, thousands of industrious Huguenots and other non-compliants massacred. Pope Clement XI in his Bull Unigentius condemned the publishing and circulation of the New Testament in French calling it "increasing disease", "contagion" would "break out into worse effects". Previously the priests had been unable to heal people from The Black Death. (Picture: Monks with the plague being blessed by the priest 1360-1375)

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Libraries and other forms of free-thinking were banned. The situation was ripe for the rise of Atheistic Socialism, “Liberté, égalité, fraternité ou la mort”. A “sore” or boil that had been causing pain, now ready to burst. Starting with the storming of the Bastille, a mob in Paris massacre 1,240,000 people, including the Royal Family and 24,000 Roman Catholic clergy.

"At Lyons the scaffold opposite the Hotel de Ville, where the trials were conducted, was kept in ceaseless employment. Around its bloody foundations large quantities of water were daily poured, but they were inadequate to wash away the .. stains or remove the fetid odour…at length a guillotine was placed in the middle of the bridge at Morand in the centre of the Rhone, into which the stream of blood at once fell ...” - Archibald Alison, "The History of Europe during the French Revolution."

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"And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. Rev And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image." (Revelation 16:1-2)
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French aristocracy had it coming, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Modern monarchies are massively weaker, but the modern disparaty between the super rich and the super poor. Except this time, its a bit more mobile. Sorry communists, nobody can ever agree on equality.
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No I don't think I can agree with the French Revolution. It is clear that as a result of the 7 years war and the American Revolution, the French nation was brought to financial ruin and that something needed to be done but Louis XVI, the King punished for this problem with his eventual beheading, came to power during this state of crisis and would as I imagine most people, would be in panic regarding this situation. Now don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the King's decisions to try and solve the financial problem by raising taxes even further, leading the people to starvation, however, a full scale revolution would not alleviate the problem anymore so.

You may think that I'm wrong and say that the revolution brought "freedom for all", mentioning their motto "liberte, egalite, fraternite" but was this really the case? I mean yes the constitution was created as a result, increasing the rights held by French citizens but ultimately, once the new government had been established after the abolition of the monarchy, it made it's own decisions and dealt with/killed those who disagreed with them, just as oppressive as the system they started a revolution against in the first place. This was shown clearly in the first republic's "reign of terror" where the state used their revolutionary army, the "sans cullottes" to kill all those suspected of being counter-revolutionaries or "enemies of freedom" without trial (so who knows how many of them were actually innocent or guilty). 17,000 died at the guillotine, 40,000 in the prisons killed and those are just the recorded figures. These deaths were not only ordered by the state but also by the worshipped writer "Jean-Paul Marat" whose newspaper called out kill orders for those who in his opinions were traitors and if he didn't name anyone specific he would encourage the death of many eg: 200,000 people (actual number he used) to succeed in the mission of the french revolution.

So as you can perhaps tell by now, my conclusion of the french revolution is that it didn't aid France. The crisis under Louis XVI may have been solved but at the cost of many lives and don't even get me started on the amount of people killed abroad by the revolutionary army. If we can call the result of the revolution "freedom", it is one coated in blood. What I believe should have happened instead is that the national assembly (who initially caused the revolution) could have forced the King into a state similar to England, where as the King keeps his position of authority and power but must pass his decisions through parliament and work with such an advised body for the betterment of France and maintain a strong state.
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There were too f**king many.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French...isambiguation)
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(Original post by Ghostmaster475)
Today is Bastille day, commemorating the fall of the Bastille prison to french revolutionaries after rising against what they understood as an unfair system. What are your thoughts on it? Was it good/bad for the country? Did it ultimately cause that much change?
It is not a criminal offence in any country to question any aspect of the FRench Revolution. That is because there is nothing to hide.
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i quite like the names of the Revolutionary Months ( great quiz questions )

https://www.britannica.com/list/the-...lican-calendar
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