Why is Trump so nice to Putin but constantly attacks fellow western leaders? Watch

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Every time he meets with supposed allies, he does something to offend them or he shows some sort of dislike for their countries or their institutions. When he meets with Putin, we get nothing of the sort, everything goes by without a hitch?

What's the deal with this? Surely he should treat his countries allies better than he treats Russia.
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I think maybe they don't want a repeat of the cold war and the USA are part of NATO, therefore, don't need a big reason to show kindness towards other leaders because of the peace treaty.
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(Original post by zebraguy 20)
What's the deal with this? Surely he should treat his countries allies better than he treats Russia.
Trump is a representative of imperialists. He shares a completely different ideology from the globalists aka modern west. His goal is to dismantle the current globalistic structures and return the world to imperialism again.

NATO (outdated), G7, EU, economical superclusters (like NAFTA) are globalists structures. What's use of G7? There is G20. G7 is at most ideological group. Not economical anymore. Putin plays imperialistic game so Trump has no reason to conflict with him - the stage will be designed later. China too - trade wars are more about WTO and other globalistic elements than direct conflict with China.

All europeans construct can do nothing about the middle east or China. Take for example Russia and Ukraine. Sanctions? What's the use of them for autocratic governments? China can build artificial islands, persecute minorities and so and nobody will denounce it thanks to globalization. Yet, the west continues doing its purity tests among members like who did take more refugees.

Trump at least able to say what other people think. Take Brexi for example. May's proposal is **** and he said that. If you want to leave european structure then JUST DO IT, instead of inventing complex set of compromises that are worse than before.

The thing is that the world is not bipolar anymore. No more wall vs wall fights.
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(Original post by Chucke1992)
Trump is a representative of imperialists. He shares a completely different ideology from the globalists aka modern west. His goal is to dismantle the current globalistic structures and return the world to imperialism again.

NATO, G7, EU, economical superclusters (like NAFTA) are globalists structures. What's use of G7? There is G20. G7 is at most ideological group. Not economical anymore.

Literally, all european construct can do nothing about the middle east or China. Take for example Russia and Ukraine. Sanctions? What's the use of them for autocratic governments?
China can build artificial islands, persecute minorities and so and nobody will denounce it thanks to globalization. Yet, the west continues doing its purity tests among members like who did take more refugees.
"Globalist structures" that you allude to exist to ensure diplomatic ties and dialogue between countries. Global issues require global communication and discussions at the very least. None of these organisations are powerful enough to bring radical change without infringing upon freedoms.

Sanctions are the most aggressive non-violent means of punishing countries. There's nothing more we can do about Russia than that. Every time they assassinate foreign citizens or commit international crime, sanctions can be implemented.
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Trump is very clearly a Russian agent. He's a traitor. He said today that he'd allow Putin to help investigate the FBI.
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Trump is being made to look like Putin’s *****
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(Original post by rhaegar456)
"Globalist structures" that you allude to exist to ensure diplomatic ties and dialogue between countries. Global issues require global communication and discussions at the very least. None of these organisations are powerful enough to bring radical change without infringing upon freedoms.
Not really. Diplomatic ties in imperialistic point of view similar but different.

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Sanctions are the most aggressive non-violent means of punishing countries. There's nothing more we can do about Russia than that. Every time they assassinate foreign citizens or commit international crime, sanctions can be implemented.
And how did it help? Russia just increased taxes, cut social programs and that's it. Not to mention that using sanctions it allows to make the population poor and create more mercenaries. (though in Russia today it is becoming trendy for oligarchs to create private armies).

Sanctions is western invention for western values. How effective they for Iran? Yeah, some riots. By so what? It continues doing its activities in Syria.
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Because Russian oligarchs funded his campaign, he can't be mean to Putin
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(Original post by Chucke1992)
Not really. Diplomatic ties in imperialistic point of view similar but different.
This sentence doesn't mean anything.

(Original post by Chucke1992)
And how did it help? Russia just increased taxes, cut social programs and that's it. Not to mention that using sanctions it allows to make the population poor and create more mercenaries. (though in Russia today it is becoming trendy for oligarchs to create private armies).

Sanctions is western invention for western values. How effective they for Iran? Yeah, some riots. By so what? It continues doing its activities in Syria.

It doesn't matter. Russia suffered and it acts as a deterrent. Your point about mercenaries sounds like a movie fantasy more than anything. Point is it's not an escalation.

Funnily enough, Trump still hasn't passed through congressional sanctions from a year ago. Only ones issued by the treasury.

I'm not sure what your point is. Sanctions from America's point of view cuts off access to majority of the global financial systems and can prove problematic in the long term. It's purely a deterrent and makes their presence known.
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People tend to think that Putin and Trump share similar traits when it comes to nationalism which is b****cks on Trump’s end.
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If you are trying to improve relations with a country, insulting them isn’t the best way to go.
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This collusion thing has been going on for about a year so far we've found out that there are some pro-Hillary anti-Trump people in top positions of these intelligence services who had a clear pro-Hillary bias when in their job they have to remain neutral.


That some Russians may have hacked emails but Hillary was disliked long before that because of her long history in politics and her involved in Libya etc she was damaged goods

Some Russians had a few pro-Trump ads on social media


But there nothing about rigging votes or hacking election machines


Can you imagine all the West does to influence foreign elections and then compare to Russia's alleged crimes?


What is sad is that people are blinded by their hate of Trump that they're willing to believe the conspiracy because it's very much propaganda where we keep hearing about collusion every day surely people will think there is truth to it?
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Putin is in a different position, he has all the natural resources in his favour, is free to exploit his people and will serve until death.

Trump envies Putin.

He lets his fascination cloud his skills. I think he sweats when he is in a room with Putin.

He is a very weak puppet Putin in alot of ways.
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Trump gets along alright with Macron.

He criticised Germany for buying gas from Russia

He attacked Theresa May for not going the right way about Brexit which is what many Brexit supporters feel anyway.


He told Putin not to meddle in the US elections which Putin denies he did anyway
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If you are trying to improve relations with a country, insulting them isn’t the best way to go.
Yeh but just today Trump threw the FBI under the bus for Putin lol. I mean which leader throws one of his government's institutions under the bus like that.
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Yeh but just today Trump threw the FBI under the bus for Putin lol. I mean which leader throws one of his government's institutions under the bus like that.
That’s true. But at the same time Trump is hardly going to admit that he only won the election due to the Russians is he?
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Probably because Putin has that pissing tape of Trump .
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That’s true. But at the same time Trump is hardly going to admit that he only won the election due to the Russians is he?
No his ego won't allow that. Many politicians can answer a question without actually giving an answer at all sometimes, I dunno why he couldn't waffle out something without dishing dirt on the fbi lol.
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its what happens when you appoint someone with no govt or policy experience.

he goes around insulting and undermining his own intelligence agencies.

Trump and his supporters just want a fascist ethno state and are prepared to get in bed with anyone to achieve it
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Putin is the bigmanting. Trump knows whos boss.
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