VM494 - Recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel Motion Watch

Poll: Do you agree with this motion?
As many as are of that opinion, Aye (14)
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On the contrary, No (23)
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Abstain (10)
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M494 - Recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel Motion, G131999, Rt. Hon. CountBrandenburg MP

This house believes that Her Majesty’s Government should recognise Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel in addition to moving the UK embassy to Jerusalem.

In 1917, Britain’s Foreign Secretary – Arthur James Balfour – declared his support for the Jewish people to have a homeland in the region of Palestine (roughly encompassing modern day Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority).

After Britain and France occupied the areas previously occupied by the Ottoman empire, Britain was given control of the region of Palestine (the name itself a revival of the old Roman name for the region “Syria-Palæstina” – before then it was generally known as “the Land of Israel”). Britain created the British Mandate for Palestine (on the condition that the Balfour Declaration was to be implemented) in the area approximately equivalent to modern day Israel and the Palestinian Authority. The British Mandate for Transjordan was created simultaneously, which went on to become an Arab state – giving the Arabs ¾ of the land originally designated for a Jewish Homeland.

After years of civil unrest, the British handed control of the mandate over to the newly established United Nations. In 1947, the UN created a non-legally binding partition plan (UN Resolution 181) in which the mandate would be divided further; a Jewish and Arab state would be created in the former mandate and Jerusalem would remain under UN administration as an international city.

The Jewish community in the mandate accepted the partition plan, whilst the Arabs refused to accept the partition plan – triggering a civil war. The countries of Transjordan, Egypt, Iraq and Syroa invaded the newly established state of Israel in 1948. After the war, Jordan took control of the West Bank (commonly known as Judea and Samaria) and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Jordan and Egypt had no legal justification for their occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip. From 1948 to the 1967 Six Day War, no efforts were made to establish and independent Arab state.

After the capture of Jerusalem, Jordan destroyed and desecrated religious sites, imposed religious restrictions and denied access to holy sites. Under current Israeli rule, religious freedoms are protected and access to holy sites allowed for all.

In 1967, Israel launched a war of self-defence after the Egyptian army closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping (in direct violation of the 1956 peace treaty after the Suez Crisis), amassed troops at the border, removed UN peacekeeping forces from the Sinai and the then Egyptian President – Gamal Abdel Nasser – declared in a speech “Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel”.

In the aftermath of this war, Israel gained control of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza Strip.

In 1979, Israel withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula representing an Israeli withdrawal of approximately 90% - mostly complying with UN resolution 242. Since then, Israel has withdrawn from the Gaza Strip (after Israel withdrew – the people of Gaza voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation) and large parts of the West Bank using the ‘land for peace’ approach. However, the Palestinians have responded with terrorism and hostility and have refused peace deals including one which offered the Palestinian Authority 97% of the West Bank.

In 1980, Israel declared as the ‘complete and united’ capital of Israel.

From a legal perspective, Israeli claims to Jerusalem are as follows:
• There was no existing country prior to Israel with legal justification to control Jerusalem (Jordan had no legal justification to be in East Jerusalem and the West Bank in the first place).
• Jordan’s claim to the West Bank and East Jerusalem was never
• There has never been an independent Arab state by the name of ‘Palestine’ – Israel captured the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, not ‘Palestine’
• Resolution 181 (the 1947 UN partition plan) was a non-binding resolution in the first place and currently has no legal standing
• Every country has the right to safe and secure borders. Resolution 242 clearly states that all countries involved have “a right to live in peace within secure and recognised boundaries free from threats or acts of force”. Withdrawing to the 1948 armistice line poses an extreme security threat to the state of Israel.
• The ‘border’ in 1948 was simply an armistice line and NOT an international border.
• The territory was occupied by Israel in a war of self-defence.
• The West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza strip all fall within the region designated as the ‘Jewish homeland’.
• As such, the territory is ‘disputed’ NOT ‘occupied’.
• As the territory is not occupied, a transfer of Israel’s civilian population into the West Bank and Jerusalem is NOT illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention.

The information above provides legal and historical justification for Israel’s control of Jerusalem. As such, Jerusalem should be recognised as the undivided capital of Israel and the UK embassy should be relocated to Jerusalem

Citations https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n_unmarked.jpg https://www.mythsandfacts.org/confli..._palestine.htm http://jewishbubba.blogspot.com/2016...t-name-of.html http://historyofpalestine-israel.blo...estine-to.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9CTBOKK4g https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unisp...256C330061D253 https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...f-independence https://www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars https://www.britannica.com/event/Six-Day-War https://www.britannica.com/event/Camp-David-Accords https://www.britannica.com/topic/Uni...Resolution-242 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWmPqY8TE0 https://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-...er-from-olmert
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I am of course voting aye.
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Seems fairly evident that Jerusalem belongs to Israel. Anyone who objects seems, to me, to be wanting to escalate the violence and tensions over their own personal historical interpretations and inaccuracies.
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One aye has been added for DayneD89
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Nay, West Jerusalem is Isreali, East Jerusalem is Palestinian.
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No. We don't want another oil crisis on our hands, do we?
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I thought long about this and the result is a no until there's an agreement with Israel to give up their occupied territories, especially Golan Heights.
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I thought long about this and the result is a no until there's an agreement with Israel to give up their occupied territories, especially Golan Heights.
I find myself, for once, agreeing with LP. This motion would only push the conflict further from peace and is nowhere near a solution that works for both Israelis and Palestinians.
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At the end of the day who are we to tell other countries where can and cannot be their capital? There should be two simple questions to ask:
1) Is Jerusalem within Israel?
2) Do the Israelis regard Jerusalem as their capital?

The answer to both of these questions is yes. If the motion called for Swindon to be recognised as the capital of Israel it would be a different matter given it is neither in Israel nor is it regarded as the capital by Israelis.. Voting against this is telling Israel how to manage their internal affairs, something the house was strongly against doing with Iran.
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One No has been removed due to a double vote in seat 46 (Mainline421 / PetrosAC).
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
The Ayes to the right: 13
The Noes to the left: 17
Abstentions: 9

The Noes have it! The Noes have it! Unlock!
closes tomorrow...
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
closes tomorrow...
This is why it's a bad idea to rush updates...
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Aye. It is my personal belief that Jerusalem has and will always be the capital city of Israel.
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One No has been removed due to a double vote in seat 46 (Mainline421 / PetrosAC).
I've edited the vote to reflect this
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Jammy Duel please change my vote to no. I pressed the wrong button.
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Jammy Duel please change my vote to no. I pressed the wrong button.
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Time for the actual declaration:

The Ayes to the right: 14
The Noes to the left: 23
Abstentions: 10

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