Its Official, Medicinal Cannabis Products Will Be Legalised In The UK

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Sajid Javid has declared that doctors will be allowed to prescribe licensed medicinal cannabis products on the NHS from autum for certain conditions https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44968386

My personal view is what took so long and I suspect it will innitially be given to palliative care (end of life care) patients or patients with disruptive chronic conditions such as Crohns or multiple sclerosis.
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Honestly, with the rise of skunk, primary (or secondary, debatable), I'm quite shocked they had the balls to do it, but very happy that it's medicinal first.
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Honestly, with the rise of skunk, primary (or secondary, debatable), I'm quite shocked they had the balls to do it, but very happy that it's medicinal first.
even if it is fully legalised, it should have a special P licensing (like viagra or morning after pill) in the sense that it can be purchased over the counter but requires specialling interrogation, I mean counselling by a pharmacist before it can be supplied
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even if it is fully legalised, it should have a special P licensing (like viagra or morning after pill) in the sense that it can be purchased over the counter but requires specialling interrogation, I mean counselling by a pharmacist before it can be supplied
Good call actually.
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I have already had patients asking me about it today.
Curious to know your views on this (as well as other medical, pharmacy, nursing views for that matter)
imo initial release should be for palliative care with chronic conditions afterwards and if cannabis is given full recreational usage, it should be a specialist P med (purchase from pharmacy but with special counselling regarding cross checking summary of care records)
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Sajid Javid has declared that doctors will be allowed to prescribe licensed medicinal cannabis products on the NHS from autum for certain conditions https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44968386

My personal view is what took so long and I suspect it will innitially be given to palliative care (end of life care) patients or patients with disruptive chronic conditions such as Crohns or multiple sclerosis.
In my experience, no regular Jo (or Charlotte) is so fiercely defending of cannabis unless they themselves regularly indulged at some point. Has anyone considered it might actually be the cause of her son's condition? Just food for thought, hope I'm wrong.
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In my experience, no regular Jo (or Charlotte) is so fiercely defending of cannabis unless they themselves regularly indulged at some point. Has anyone considered it might actually be the cause of her son's condition? Just food for thought, hope I'm wrong.
That's an interesting thought, but I seriously doubt the mother was a stoner during her pregnancy or are you thinking smoking the devil's lettuce has long-term effects on carrying a child before pregnancy?

I'm not a procurer of Mary Jane but I'd like to see it legalised. From what I've seen, the drug does far less damage compared to the effects of alcohol which I've unfortunately seen first hand...
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That's an interesting thought, but I seriously doubt the mother was a stoner during her pregnancy or are you thinking smoking the devil's lettuce has long-term effects on carrying a child before pregnancy?

I'm not a procurer of Mary Jane but I'd like to see it legalised. From what I've seen, the drug does far less damage compared to the effects of alcohol which I've unfortunately seen first hand...
I am neither heartless nor unsympathetic, just concerned before society gives the green light to expectant mothers... it's ok to continue, it won't affect your unborn baby. I am unfamiliar with the possible effects on a developing phoetus but I'm sure it can't be good.
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I am neither heartless nor unsympathetic, just concerned before society gives the green light to expectant mothers... it's ok to continue, it won't affect your unborn baby. I am unfamiliar with the possible effects on a developing phoetus but I'm sure it can't be good.
I didn't say you were heartless or unsympathetic, I just said it's an interesting thought.
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I didn't say you were heartless or unsympathetic, I just said it's an interesting thought.
Many thanks... I was expecting a face full of venom from some so just clarifying my motives. I was a club dj for many years so... if asked... I would say good chance the mum was a stoner, as you put it. You get a sense of... suspecting, don't ask me how. As I said, hope I'm wrong.
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I didn't say you were heartless or unsympathetic, I just said it's an interesting thought.
I am still concerned that Sanjt Javid is sending out the message that cannabis is good for kids just to win a few political brownie points when it has not been properly investigated. When, if my interesting thought has substance then the opposite is true.
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Honestly, with the rise of skunk, primary (or secondary, debatable), I'm quite shocked they had the balls to do it, but very happy that it's medicinal first.
I'm afraid I am far from happy. I have seen the long term effects of cannabis usage, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusion. If it can so addle an adult brain I dread to think of the effect it might have on an unborn child.
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Sadly, we clamp down on youth pushing it. We don't really want a nation of 'don't worry, be happy' zombies while the world crashes around them.
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Good. Some of the side effects of the current drugs for epilepsy (I'm on one) are utterly horrible.

Can't see you being able to go into a chemist and buying this though. I would hope it'd be prescription only and the patient closely monitored.
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Curious to know your views on this (as well as other medical, pharmacy, nursing views for that matter)
imo initial release should be for palliative care with chronic conditions afterwards and if cannabis is given full recreational usage, it should be a specialist P med (purchase from pharmacy but with special counselling regarding cross checking summary of care records)
I think it should be solely medicinal or at least POM, people can easily attempt to lie trying to get anything OTC and scrs have their limits.
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Sadly, we clamp down on youth pushing it. We don't really want a nation of 'don't worry, be happy' zombies while the world crashes around them.
That's right man, better the populace is constantly terrified, nervous and desperate... three big drivers of economic growth those.
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I have a certain condition, when can I get some
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Even though he said this will not be a step to making it legal I doubt him, when it is legal it will make for a far worse country
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I think it should be solely medicinal or at least POM, people can easily attempt to lie trying to get anything OTC and scrs have their limits.
medicinal POM, recreational P with restrictions is my view
EDIT - recreational will have issues. agree regarding SCRs having limits but fully POM would be a nightmare as private scripts can be easily forged and there would be no way any clinically sane GP would prescribe it on the NHS in good consciousness.

imo they should enhance SCRs with 2 way communication so pharmacy staff can record information on what has been sold OTC and restrictions apply so the only way certain items can be sold is via SCR screening and it can be determined whether or not they can be eligible to purchase it (again).
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There's cannabis oil you can buy in shops. I wonder if they'll be able to up the THC in those because I'd consider trying the oil for pain relief.
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