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Paracetamol overdose - the consequences

Apologies if this breaks any rules or is inappropriate. This is not a personal experience and I am not considering suicide by paracetamol overdose, so don't fret. But do read on.

I've just been reading over at Random Acts of Reality (a blog by a London Ambulance worker) about a case of Paracetamol overdose, I think this should be required reading for anyone over the age of 12. The following words are his, not mine.

'm driving on this particular shift, my crewmate is in the back dealing with the patient.

I'm grinding my teeth at the waste.

The patient is almost certainly going to die - he's taken an overdose. The tablets he's taken, and the way he's taken them, mean that parts of his body will start to fail over the next few days. His immediate future is hospital bed, then an ITU bed, then either waiting for a transplant or death. It's too late for any treatment to work on him.

He's not in any pain, he doesn't feel weak, he has no symptoms.

He talks to my crewmate. The body language suggests that he is upset but not suicidally depressed.

It was one of those 'cry for help' things - asking why he did it gets the answer that he wanted to die, but now they don't. It's a common enough reason - that they change their mind and then phone us.

Everyone can get these pills - you can read the inference, how can they be that dangerous if you can buy them over the counter?

He lives in a nice house, has a family, had his future ahead of him.

I suspect that he thinks that they'll have a 'stomach pump', a chat with the psychiatrists and then come home. He doesn't realise the damage that he has done to his body.

We don't talk about the outcome to the patient - we'll leave that to the hospital after his blood tests show if he is telling the truth or not. We'll only see him for the ten minutes it takes us to drive him to hospital.

I'm hoping that the patient is lying, that he hasn't done what he says he has, but the empty pill packets speak for themselves.

I know I'll be thinking about him for the next few months long after I've forgotten his name.

His mother is travelling with him.

He's fourteen years old.


Be aware of the risks people, I'm afraid whilst I knew Paracetamol was dangerous I was one of "those people" who think you can just get your stomach pumped after an overdose. You can't. If you don't get an antidote administered within 12 hours there's a high risk of death.

Worst case scenario (source: comments):
There are almost no immediate effects from a paracetamol overdose. After about 18 to 24 hours, you may get some nausea/vomiting, and not a lot else. After that, you start to feel a bit better, for a short time. Then you start to notice some abdominal pain. In the next few days, you turn yellow. You become confused, and may hallucinate. Your blood pressure is low, and you leak fluid under your skin until you look like the Michelin man. Your failing liver can no longer make the proteins that allow your blood to clot so you start to bleed. You bleed from the holes that are made as people collect blood samples, you bleed under your skin, you can bleed from anywhere and every where. Your kidneys will fail, meaning you need dialysis. At this stage, if you do not get a liver within a short period of time, you will die. Medicine has yet to invent a machine that can replace the work of the liver. Hopefully you will be unconcious as your near the end, because it is highly unpleasant.


Of all the ways to kill yourself Paracetamol overdose has to be one of the least pleasant. They seriously need to educate people on the consequences of ODing on Paracetamol.

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There are almost no immediate effects from a paracetamol overdose. After about 18 to 24 hours, you may get some nausea/vomiting, and not a lot else. After that, you start to feel a bit better, for a short time. Then you start to notice some abdominal pain. In the next few days, you turn yellow. You become confused, and may hallucinate. Your blood pressure is low, and you leak fluid under your skin until you look like the Michelin man. Your failing liver can no longer make the proteins that allow your blood to clot so you start to bleed. You bleed from the holes that are made as people collect blood samples, you bleed under your skin, you can bleed from anywhere and every where. Your kidneys will fail, meaning you need dialysis. At this stage, if you do not get a liver within a short period of time, you will die. Medicine has yet to invent a machine that can replace the work of the liver. Hopefully you will be unconcious as your near the end, because it is highly unpleasant.
source?
Reply 2
I read that blog too, it's very good. You should read Inspector Gadget's one too.
Reply 3
fleur de lis
source?


The author is a member of the LAS, a very famous blogger. He knows what he's talking about.
Ghost
The author is a member of the LAS, a very famous blogger. He knows what he's talking about.

Ah ok, I didn't know if the second bit came from the same place as the first bit, is all.
Reply 5
I think 13-year old attention-seeking MySpacewhores all over the world should be forced to read this.
Reply 6
fleur de lis
Ah ok, I didn't know if the second bit came from the same place as the first bit, is all.


Upon re-reading, you might be right!
Reply 7
^ Second part is from the comments section but appears consistent with other sources on the web. Clearly it depends on dosage, drug combinations and other factors. But that's a possible route if left too late.
alanmcg
^ Second part is from the comments section but appears consistent with other sources on the web. Clearly it depends on dosage, drug combinations and other factors. But that's a possible route if left too late.

It is a possible route, I'm sure. But I don't agree with the way it's written as if that's definitely what happens every time, cos it's not.
Reply 9
I think 13-year old attention-seeking MySpacewhores all over the world should be forced to read this.


Hear ****ing hear.
Reply 10
fleur de lis
It is a possible route, I'm sure. But I don't agree with the way it's written as if that's definitely what happens every time, cos it's not.


See your point, but if it scares people.. I've edited for accuracy.
Don't know where the second bit comes from but it's accurate. I've been unfortunate enough to know a rather shocking number of people who've given up like that and it really scares me that people think paracetamol is the "easy way out". Even people who DO want to kill themselves. They think they'll just go to sleep and don't realise the excruciating pain they're about to put themselves through. I only know one guy who's gone a more horrific way, and trust me you don't wanna hear it...
Reply 12
A girl I was friends with left a load of suicide notes. It was one of the scariest moments of my life. I was pannicking at the time but afterwards I realised that it was just a cry for help. She was okay, had taken several pills but was out of hospital quickly. Damn selfish of her though, she even wrote where she was going to do it in her notes, for the inevitable drama of us rushing off to save her :rolleyes:
My housemate's mum accidentally od'd on paracetamol... She took a few additional tablets (I don't the amount was very much) and she had to stay in hospital for a couple of days. It's pretty scary stuff.
Never OD on paracetamol everyone knows that.
Reply 15
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Never OD on paracetamol everyone knows that.
Clearly not.
Renal
Clearly not.

indeedy. anyone seriously considering suicide will probably look it up and find out the 'best' and 'worst' ways to do it.
But those who are looking to OD for attention don't tend to bother, and often end up harming themselves much more than they ever intended.
Reply 17
lastyear@uni
Don't know where the second bit comes from but it's accurate. I've been unfortunate enough to know a rather shocking number of people who've given up like that and it really scares me that people think paracetamol is the "easy way out". Even people who DO want to kill themselves. They think they'll just go to sleep and don't realise the excruciating pain they're about to put themselves through. I only know one guy who's gone a more horrific way, and trust me you don't wanna hear it...



I have a car crash type morbid curiosity after reading that and want to know...
Reply 18
It shouldn't really be paracetamol-specific - I think the general rule is that overdosing on anything can have disastrous consequences. Hence the term "overdose".

I'm allergic to paracetamol so I'm glad to know I shall never risk "accidental overdose" or anything of the sort, but it really does put the fear of God in me. As it was so correctly mentioned in the original source, who knew something that was so readily available could be so dangerous? I think the dangers of overdoses should be made as obvious to the patient as the dangers of cigarettes are made to the smokers. After all, this has proven they can be just as dangerous if not more.

I know I wasn't aware that they could cause so much damage, and there will remain many more oblivious people: children, teenagers, and adults alike, who won't know how much damage it can cause until it's too late.
Reply 19
Lanares
It shouldn't really be paracetamol-specific - I think the general rule is that overdosing on anything can have disastrous consequences. Hence the term "overdose".Point. Missed.

Paracetamol is, without question, the most commonly used drug in suicide and parasuicide. Of all the drugs used in suicide and parasuicide it has the most unpleasant effects.

Therefore, it is not the same as 'anything'.