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pardon my grammer/spelling, i live in Switzerland.

I am 16 year old Somali girl. i am not a feminist, well i am not sure but i dont want women to dominate men or to treat them badly. most men this days tend to hate on feminist so cool down.

Anyways this past weeks i have been thinking quit a lot about gender and the world. the more i dig the more i have found men take the major role. men rule the world even now.

Lets talk about the women in the west first:

women are the one suffering taking care of the kids and also working and house chores:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7969306.html

https://www.google.at/amp/s/m.huffin...me_a_23224733/

https://www.google.at/amp/www.pewres...-life/%3famp=1

Most of the women get killed by their male partners:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.inde...991.html%3famp

Men cheat more:

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheat...ing-in-america

Men abuse more:

http://www.thehotline.org/resources/statistics/

discrimination:

https://www.coe.int/en/web/commissio...mise-in-europe

portraying women as sex objects:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.psyc...-objects%3famp

https://womenandadvertising.weebly.c...l-objects.html



In Asia and Africa:

Rape:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/m.huffpo...b7b469cb22/amp

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/...ou_a_23192126/

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.nyti...-east.amp.html

Abuse:

http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/696356

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.bbc....india-42193533

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/pub...saharan-africa

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ca...e-law-working/

Working:

http://www.hrinasia.com/hr-news/chin...-in-workplace/

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.thea...rticle/274115/

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion.../#.W14wOWixUew

https://www.economist.com/middle-eas...te-of-arab-men

Murdering:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.bbc....-asia-35943732


house chores:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/1883...it-has-so-many

cheating:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/supchina...rce-cases/amp/



World wide:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/amp.cnn....els/index.html


My questions to you:

Why are women still suffering? Are women too weak that is why they suffer? why men are the reason women are suffering? most men evil against women? why men are not helping?

Some times when i think about all this i really begin to hate on men. i feel like men want women to below them. i dont think i will ever want to have a boyfriend or get married. 😢😢😢😢 this world is just bad.
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That's mad. You could read about women treating men badly or lieing and making up rape cases and stuff. It is true some men treat women very badly. However, if you were to visit other places around the world you will realise that what we are shown is not always the case.

A lot of men have nothing against feminism. We don't like modern feminism which is something else and can sometimes include anti-men people who are stupid.
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Why are women still suffering?
Everyone has to work together more. We need to have less women who make men think feminism is very bad. I can blame them because feminists treat us like ****. Well, not all but most anyway. They don't allow men to contribute even though feminism is achieving equality for both men and women.
Are women too weak that is why they suffer?
No.
Why men are the reason women are suffering?
You can't read a few cases and assume it is men that determine how much women suffer.
Most men evil against women? Why men are not helping?

We do try help but a lot of the time with feminism we are pushed aside.
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Hold on are you the same girl who lives in the Netherlands?
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And they get all angry when girls say men are trash. Are you really that surprised, can you really blame women for being scared of y’all?
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Hold on are you the same girl who lives in the Netherlands?
no,.i live in Switzerland. lol
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That's mad. You could read about women treating men badly or lieing and making up rape cases and stuff. It is true some men treat women very badly. However, if you were to visit other places around the world you will realise that what we are shown is not always the case.

A lot of men have nothing against feminism. We don't like modern feminism which is something else and can sometimes include anti-men people who are stupid.
you cant compare how men suffer and women suffer. i know there is also a lot of men that suffer because of women but if we look which gender suffers more the majority will be women. i am not only talking about white countries but world wide.
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And they get all angry when girls say men are trash. Are you really that surprised, can you really blame women for being scared of y’all?
I mean it would annoy you if men generalised you as if all of you are the same. There are men who are trash. That should be addressed. However, saying all men are like that ignores any issue and just stops any support from men.
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you cant compare how men suffer and women suffer. i know there is also a lot of men that suffer because of women but if we look which gender suffers more the majority will be women. i am not only talking about white countries but world wide.
If majority of women suffered it does not mean we have to ignore the men who also suffer is my point. We should prioritise women more maybe as they seem to be subjected most but we shouldn't act like men don't go through anything either. As if you do that then you can't blame men for moving themselves from a lot of your support stuff.
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pardon my grammer/spelling, i live in uk.

I am 19 year old italian guy. i am not a feminist, well i am not sure but i dont want women to dominate men or to treat them badly. most men this days see how deformed feminist has become so cool down.

Anyways this past weeks i have been thinking quit a lot about gender and the world. the more i dig the more i have found women take the major role. women rule the world even now.
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If majority of women suffered it does not mean we have to ignore the men who also suffer is my point. We should prioritise women more maybe as they seem to be subjected most but we shouldn't act like men don't go through anything either. As if you do that then you can't blame men for moving themselves from a lot of your support stuff.
but i am talking about women now. also women seriously suffer in this world under the hands of men, just look at africa and asia. did you read the links????

i am not saying we should not help men, but women need emergency help.
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Ahhh the feminist

A delusional species but a fairly amusing one
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but i am talking about women now. also women seriously suffer in this world under the hands of men, just look at africa and asia. did you read the links????

i am not saying we should not help men, but women need emergency help.
Alright. I thought you didn't agree with me. We do need to help these women. What do you have in mind? How do you think we should help these women?
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Ahhh the feminist

A delusional species but a fairly amusing one
wth i am serious
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Ahhh the feminist

A delusional species but a fairly amusing one
She feels a certain way due to experience and what she has been told. Can't hate on that. May as well show some of what she thinks is not always true.
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- About the working salary myth: The myth was popular when Obama stated it in his speech sometimes ago I didn't remember: There's one thing he didn't consider. He took the average salary of all men' jobs and compare it to the average salary of all women' jobs but there's 1 flaw: some jobs are male-dominant like... the Army, I mean women can join the army but many chooses not to so it's still a male-dominant job basically. So as for constructions workers/ factory workers,.... (and the list goes on very very long). Those jobs give men an edge in Obama's statistic that created the working salary myth

- About the stat, most women get killed by their male partner: Uhhhh... there are more males who commit crime than women. The only place to blame is our biological instinct. We were bornt with more testosterone. But hey this should be a yay news for females or do u want women to commit as much crime as male?

- Abuse... same reason

- Rape... same reason

--> By the end of the day, the law applies to both genders fairly. If A is proved to have sexual harassed/assaulted B then regardless the gender, A is guilty with 10 years in prison.
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Debatable

Statistics say that men are suffering just as much when it comes to domestic abuse and rape, only difference is many are too scared/embarrassed to report it

Women cheat just as much as men

Men are ogled just as much as women, only we're allegedly just expected to enjoy it

Yes women might be raising the kids more and doing more household work but are they also paying equally towards everything?

Because last time I looked if shes working just as many hours as her partner then someone else is raising the kids and housework is split
If shes at home raising kids and doing chores then evidently she is not working which means her partner is the one going out and making the money so it seems like a fair trade to me
and isn't that choice? these women are not forced to stay at home and raise their kids. thats why theres househusbands, because some couples agree that maybe the women should keep working as maybe she makes more or hes better at home

what are men doing about it? well sorry but i say we're doing a darn sight more about it than woman. sure any of this crap shouldn't be happening but it shouldn't happen to both men and women. but the last time i checked people simply laugh and walk by if they saw a guy getting beaten or mistreated or in danger in any way but men and women both were quick to run to a womans defence if they saw a woman getting attacked/kidnapped/in danger in any way

then we're also ridiculed over things like paying the bill. if a woman never pays for a man or never goes halves no one makes a big deal but if a guy doesn't pay for the date or asks her to go halves hes a pig. don't get me wrong i'm happy to pay for the bill, but surely if you call yourself a feminist and want to be equal to us in everywhere and want to keep working after marriage you shouldn't be expecting me to pay for everything?

i'm not denying that a lot of women have it bad. its just that women are a lot more protected. whereas men equally get a bad deal in life but most of us are just expected to 'be men' and shut up and take it like a man. man beaten by his girlfriend - its not like he can't handle it. man raped by woman - probably enjoyed it. man groped by a woman - probably enjoyed it. man attacked by a stranger - surely hes man enough to handle it himself. man working whilst girlfriend is at home - hes a misogynistic pig. man at home raising the kids whilst partner is working - how embarrassing, which man lives off a womans money? man working and girlfriend working whilst kids are at home - what wrong, not man enough to make enough money for your family that you expect your partner to work too? man complains = hes a big baby... etc etc

is there any wonder that the male suicide rates are higher than the females?
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man ain't got time to click those links ygm
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(Original post by Sagalkjk)
pardon my grammer/spelling, i live in Switzerland.

I am 16 year old Somali girl. i am not a feminist, well i am not sure but i dont want women to dominate men or to treat them badly. most men this days tend to hate on feminist so cool down.

Anyways this past weeks i have been thinking quit a lot about gender and the world. the more i dig the more i have found men take the major role. men rule the world even now.

Lets talk about the women in the west first:

women are the one suffering taking care of the kids and also working and house chores:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7969306.html

https://www.google.at/amp/s/m.huffin...me_a_23224733/

https://www.google.at/amp/www.pewres...-life/%3famp=1

Most of the women get killed by their male partners:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.inde...991.html%3famp

Men cheat more:

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheat...ing-in-america

Men abuse more:

http://www.thehotline.org/resources/statistics/

discrimination:

https://www.coe.int/en/web/commissio...mise-in-europe

portraying women as sex objects:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.psyc...-objects%3famp

https://womenandadvertising.weebly.c...l-objects.html



In Asia and Africa:

Rape:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/m.huffpo...b7b469cb22/amp

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/...ou_a_23192126/

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.nyti...-east.amp.html

Abuse:

http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/696356

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.bbc....india-42193533

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/pub...saharan-africa

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ca...e-law-working/

Working:

http://www.hrinasia.com/hr-news/chin...-in-workplace/

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.thea...rticle/274115/

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion.../#.W14wOWixUew

https://www.economist.com/middle-eas...te-of-arab-men

Murdering:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.bbc....-asia-35943732


house chores:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/1883...it-has-so-many

cheating:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/supchina...rce-cases/amp/



World wide:

https://www.google.at/amp/s/amp.cnn....els/index.html


My questions to you:

Why are women still suffering? Are women too weak that is why they suffer? why men are the reason women are suffering? most men evil against women? why men are not helping?

Some times when i think about all this i really begin to hate on men. i feel like men want women to below them. i dont think i will ever want to have a boyfriend or get married. 😢😢😢😢 this world is just bad.
How sexist.
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Dear OP,

To equate all of the world's problems to 50% of the population is nonsensical and sexist. Yes, there is some sickening behaviour portrayed by people that happen to be men across the world - and that is bloody awful, let's not dismiss that. But the same goes for women, too.

Listing news articles and citing them as absolute evidence is not only completely ridiculous but gives no basis to your argument. I could just as easily find thousands of articles with the direct opposite claims about people that happen to be women. Based on your 'findings', to then come to the conclusion that "men are the reason women are suffering", "most men evil against women" and that you "hate men" is inherently sexist.

Here at TSR, we believe in equality amongst all people - no matter what their gender, age, sexuality, ethnicity, or any other determining factors... the truth of the matter is that some people on this earth are scumbags. They can be men or they can be women. Whilst it is true that historically in the Western world men have been the overarching figures in society, this is no longer the case. It is an antiquated way of thinking. It is a shame that some other societies are inherently sexist towards women, but that does not then mean that men as a collective group are responsible for this.

I can't speak for all men, but I will say this... I have never been evil towards women, I have never caused a woman to suffer and I don't hate women. Perhaps broaden your horizons and find a way to help with the imbalances you see within society as opposed to hating 50% of the population for simply existing and convincing yourself they're evil because you have used Google to prove your case. I could use Google to cite articles that state vaccines cause autism, it doesn't make it true.

I'm closing this thread now, please don't make such threads in Chat again.

Take care!
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