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Hello all! So user 04MR17 suggested that current students at various universities create a thread inviting questions, and since the only one in the Cambridge forum was specific to maths, I decided to open a more general thread.

I'm a Modern and Medieval Languages student at the end of my second year at Selwyn, so I'm also happy to field more specific questions about those subjects, but feel free to ask away about any aspect of studying at Cambridge that takes your fancy!

Also, if you'd rather ask me privately, don't hesitate to send me a PM and I'll get back to you as soon as I can - I'm not on this site with great regularity, but I'll get there. :biggrin:
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There are more thread for you to ask students questions here...
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5491004
Original post by SosbanFach
Hello all! So user 04MR17 suggested that current students at various universities create a thread inviting questions, and since the only one in the Cambridge forum was specific to maths, I decided to open a more general thread.

I'm an MML student at the end of my second year at Selwyn, so I'm also happy to field more specific questions about those subjects, but feel free to ask away about any aspect of studying at Cambridge that takes your fancy!

Also, if you'd rather ask me privately, don't hesitate to send me a PM and I'll get back to you as soon as I can - I'm not on this site with great regularity, but I'll get there. :biggrin:


Why is it called Modern and Medieval Languages when you don't actually study medieval languages? Old Norse and Russian would be a great combo!
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Original post by Snufkin
Why is it called Modern and Medieval Languages when you don't actually study medieval languages? Old Norse and Russian would be a great combo!


Haha that can be done... sort of! Old Norse is offered as part of the Anglo Saxon, Norse and Celtic course at Cambridge (not one of the most common course options, to say the least) and can be borrowed as a paper in final-year MML, so you could do Russian and Old Norse in fourth year. You'd probably be fairly unique, if nothing else! :biggrin:

To give a more serious answer, though, we do study, or at least can study, medieval languages as part of the course. There are papers specialising in, or containing elements of, medieval literature, language and culture available for all languages except Portuguese (sorry, medievalist Lusophiles, but you're out of luck :frown:). Lots of people assume that, since French, Spanish, Russian etc. are modern languages, they can't also be medieval, but they've been spoken and written for longer than that, in some form!
I'm kind of wondering more generally what it is about Cambridge that you really love? On social media and stuff it seems like people have nothing bad to say about it! Is there anything that isn't what you expected it to be???
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Original post by Caitlin912912
I'm kind of wondering more generally what it is about Cambridge that you really love? On social media and stuff it seems like people have nothing bad to say about it! Is there anything that isn't what you expected it to be???


I love the level of intellectual engagement there... in fact, the level of engagement in everything. There are always conversations and debates to be had with friends (about current affairs, literature, linguistics, all sorts really). Also, there are always things going on, whether that's talks (I saw Mary Beard interviewed by an Oxford Professor of Global History, as well as a great talk by playwright Michael Frayn this year, for example), theatre, music, sports. Most people get involved with at least something, and more often several things, alongside their degree.

Also, in terms of value for money and quality of teaching, I'm sure what I get is better than what might be offered at some universities - and this is particularly noticeable in the humanities, I think. The small group size of supervisions (1-3 students per academic) is a great way to learn, as you just can't hide behind other people, so you're forced to engage and learn. Your essay will get a good amount of individual attention.

Finally, I've found the college system to be fantastic. Cambridge is a fairly large university, but divided into smaller communities, and so you really do get to know a lot of the people in your college, and so engage beyond your course more easily. That isn't to say you only know the people in your college, of course - I have a lot of friends from my course and my extracurriculars - but often it's the core of your friendship group. It's a supportive atmosphere, and each college has its own support mechanisms in place in the form of your personal tutor (pastoral support), director of studies (academic support) and JCR (undergraduate) representatives.

Obviously, though, it isn't all sunshine and roses, and anyone who claims otherwise is kidding themselves. With a heavy workload and extensive academic commitments, often Cambridge can be quite a high-pressure environment, and that leads to stress. It can even cause and exacerbate mental health problems, something also brought on by the sense of impostor's syndrome borne of being surrounded by clever people. Everyone in Cambridge, at some time or another, has feelings of inadequacy, or that they might not belong. With a supportive friendship group, this can obviously be overcome, but it bears mentioning. Also, the different colleges can vary in their support and philosophy toward student wellbeing, with some senior tutors and directors of study reportedly having... unhelpful views about aspects like mental health support, for example.

Cambridge is an expensive city, too. The colleges provide accommodation throughout an undergraduate degree, so you often only pay that during term time, but it's much more expensive than, say, Newcastle or Sheffield. This is offset by transport costs, though - there aren't many, for most students just the cost of maintaining a bike. It's a very liveable city. There is also sometimes a vague sense of elitism, inevitable perhaps, but still unwelcome; Cambridge has had and does have problems with access from lower socio-economic backgrounds, and whilst this is changing, there's still a long way to go.

None of this should put you off, however; Cambridge is a great place to study, second to none in some fields. Consider carefully if the course suits you, as you would with any other university - it isn't worth choosing Cambridge by default just because of what it is - but if it does, I would absolutely encourage you to go to an open day and then apply. Just don't expect it to be perfect.
Original post by SosbanFach
I love the level of intellectual engagement there... in fact, the level of engagement in everything. There are always conversations and debates to be had with friends (about current affairs, literature, linguistics, all sorts really). Also, there are always things going on, whether that's talks (I saw Mary Beard interviewed by an Oxford Professor of Global History, as well as a great talk by playwright Michael Frayn this year, for example), theatre, music, sports. Most people get involved with at least something, and more often several things, alongside their degree.

Also, in terms of value for money and quality of teaching, I'm sure what I get is better than what might be offered at some universities - and this is particularly noticeable in the humanities, I think. The small group size of supervisions (1-3 students per academic) is a great way to learn, as you just can't hide behind other people, so you're forced to engage and learn. Your essay will get a good amount of individual attention.

Finally, I've found the college system to be fantastic. Cambridge is a fairly large university, but divided into smaller communities, and so you really do get to know a lot of the people in your college, and so engage beyond your course more easily. That isn't to say you only know the people in your college, of course - I have a lot of friends from my course and my extracurriculars - but often it's the core of your friendship group. It's a supportive atmosphere, and each college has its own support mechanisms in place in the form of your personal tutor (pastoral support), director of studies (academic support) and JCR (undergraduate) representatives.

Obviously, though, it isn't all sunshine and roses, and anyone who claims otherwise is kidding themselves. With a heavy workload and extensive academic commitments, often Cambridge can be quite a high-pressure environment, and that leads to stress. It can even cause and exacerbate mental health problems, something also brought on by the sense of impostor's syndrome borne of being surrounded by clever people. Everyone in Cambridge, at some time or another, has feelings of inadequacy, or that they might not belong. With a supportive friendship group, this can obviously be overcome, but it bears mentioning. Also, the different colleges can vary in their support and philosophy toward student wellbeing, with some senior tutors and directors of study reportedly having... unhelpful views about aspects like mental health support, for example.

Cambridge is an expensive city, too. The colleges provide accommodation throughout an undergraduate degree, so you often only pay that during term time, but it's much more expensive than, say, Newcastle or Sheffield. This is offset by transport costs, though - there aren't many, for most students just the cost of maintaining a bike. It's a very liveable city. There is also sometimes a vague sense of elitism, inevitable perhaps, but still unwelcome; Cambridge has had and does have problems with access from lower socio-economic backgrounds, and whilst this is changing, there's still a long way to go.

None of this should put you off, however; Cambridge is a great place to study, second to none in some fields. Consider carefully if the course suits you, as you would with any other university - it isn't worth choosing Cambridge by default just because of what it is - but if it does, I would absolutely encourage you to go to an open day and then apply. Just don't expect it to be perfect.


wow, thankyou so much for your amazing response, and for being so honest! It's been so hard to find anyone who will talk really candidly about what it's like there. Just out of curiosity when you say Cambridge has problems with access from lower socio-economic backgrounds, do you think that's because of the vaguely elitist culture there? Or do you think it's just a product of our society that it's rooted in?
Original post by Caitlin912912
wow, thankyou so much for your amazing response, and for being so honest! It's been so hard to find anyone who will talk really candidly about what it's like there. Just out of curiosity when you say Cambridge has problems with access from lower socio-economic backgrounds, do you think that's because of the vaguely elitist culture there? Or do you think it's just a product of our society that it's rooted in?


There is a wealth of financial support (excuse the pun) at Cambridge such that you're better off there than anywhere else in terms of money, even when you reach more middling incomes too (as was the case for me).

There is the Cambridge bursary, which is means tested and you can receive up to £3500/yr. Colleges have their own bursaries and grants too either on top of that, or for those who don't receive the Cambridge bursary but are still in need of help. Then there are all of the other funds, like travel grants, opportunity funds, and ones to help cover the costs of course materials.

In terms of admissions, Cambridge contextualises each application and looks at far more information than other universities. It's not uncommon for people to only get an offer from Cambridge, because of the fact that they look at so much more information. For example, they do not have GCSE requirements, but look at the grades achieved in the context of the school in which they were sat. They look at whether you live in a high participation in higher education postcode (POLAR), amongst others. It's very fair and is there to benefit the applicant so that they are fairly assessed.

One of the biggest issues in terms of access comes down to pre-university. If a student doesn't get the grades because of their school, is one. Schools being misinformed and not encouraging or being able to support an application well, or not responding to or willing to engage with the University when it reaches out. Students seeing statistics and the media coverage and being put off applying at all - if you don't apply, you can't get in. This last one in particular is an issue. There is SO much outreach and widening participation work being done across the university, from school visits, to residentials summer schools, taster days, teacher briefings... Tons. There is always more to do, of course, and always more being done.

If you are from an underrepresented background, there is a place for you at Canbridge. Absolutely so. And there are so many different groups working to help create those networks and bases of support for similar students. Such examples are FLY (women and nb people of colour), the Afro-Caribbean society, Islamic society, and one that I've been involved in called Class Act, to represent those who identify with one or more of being working class, low income, first generation, state comprehensive educated, or a care leaver/estranged student. If people get scared off and don't apply, things will never change, but it going to take a lot of work to change the wider perceptions of the university in society because of how engrained it is as an institution.
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Original post by Caitlin912912
wow, thankyou so much for your amazing response, and for being so honest! It's been so hard to find anyone who will talk really candidly about what it's like there. Just out of curiosity when you say Cambridge has problems with access from lower socio-economic backgrounds, do you think that's because of the vaguely elitist culture there? Or do you think it's just a product of our society that it's rooted in?


Original post by Paralove
One of the biggest issues in terms of access comes down to pre-university. If a student doesn't get the grades because of their school, is one. Schools being misinformed and not encouraging or being able to support an application well, or not responding to or willing to engage with the University when it reaches out. Students seeing statistics and the media coverage and being put off applying at all - if you don't apply, you can't get in. This last one in particular is an issue. There is SO much outreach and widening participation work being done across the university, from school visits, to residentials summer schools, taster days, teacher briefings... Tons. There is always more to do, of course, and always more being done.

If you are from an underrepresented background, there is a place for you at Canbridge. Absolutely so. And there are so many different groups working to help create those networks and bases of support for similar students. Such examples are FLY (women and nb people of colour), the Afro-Caribbean society, Islamic society, and one that I've been involved in called Class Act, to represent those who identify with one or more of being working class, low income, first generation, state comprehensive educated, or a care leaver/estranged student. If people get scared off and don't apply, things will never change, but it going to take a lot of work to change the wider perceptions of the university in society because of how engrained it is as an institution.


I agree entirely with Paralove; a lot of it comes down to pervasive educational inequalities long before the university stage, as well as perception. The University itself is trying its utmost to shake off this image of Cambridge as a place of unattainable ivory towers which 'isn't for people like us', but to do so it needs to distance itself from many centuries of a history when higher education was not so equitable. Lower-income students at Cambridge get far more support than at almost all other universities in the country, because the University and its colleges have the resources to provide that support. But with just 33.5% of students with free school meal eligibility getting 5 or more GCSEs at A*-C, compared to 60.5% of their better-off peers (p.11), much of the change that has to happen is out of universities' hands; they can't help students who've already been failed by society.
Have you met Ibz Mo?
We've got quite the little community of Cambridge MML students on here from various stages of their studies now...
Probably a bit of a self depreciating question and I’ll ask as I’m in the throes of pre-results day nerves, but do you know anyone who was still accepted after a ‘near miss’ of their grades? :smile:

Thanks!
Original post by Saracen's Fez
We've got quite the little community of Cambridge MML students on here from various stages of their studies now...

We're not doing too badly are we...
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Original post by sureofit
Probably a bit of a self depreciating question and I’ll ask as I’m in the throes of pre-results day nerves, but do you know anyone who was still accepted after a ‘near miss’ of their grades? :smile:

Thanks!


Yes. And the summer pool operates as part of that process.

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Original post by sureofit
Probably a bit of a self depreciating question and I’ll ask as I’m in the throes of pre-results day nerves, but do you know anyone who was still accepted after a ‘near miss’ of their grades? :smile:

Thanks!


I do indeed, yes, and as Doonesbury points out, there is an entire 'summer pool' period to deal with just that eventuality!

Basically, the college who accepted you will have first dibs over your application. Often, assuming we're talking about one grade off, they'll just accept you anyway, it'll show on UCAS and that will be that. Most colleges in most subjects, I believe, give a ratio of offers to available places that is pretty much 1:1, so as long as the result doesn't cause doubt over your suitability (like being predicted A*A*A and getting BCC might) they'll want you anyway.

Otherwise, your application will be put into a second round of pooling, and colleges without as high an uptake as they predicted in your subject can fish you out. A friend of mine went through this exact process, with the result that she has a choral scholarship from one college while attending another! It's not uncommon, so don't worry: even if things don't go as well as hoped, your application can still survive it. Good luck for the 16th!
Original post by SosbanFach
I do indeed, yes, and as Doonesbury points out, there is an entire 'summer pool' period to deal with just that eventuality!

Basically, the college who accepted you will have first dibs over your application. Often, assuming we're talking about one grade off, they'll just accept you anyway, it'll show on UCAS and that will be that. Most colleges in most subjects, I believe, give a ratio of offers to available places that is pretty much 1:1, so as long as the result doesn't cause doubt over your suitability (like being predicted A*A*A and getting BCC might) they'll want you anyway.

Otherwise, your application will be put into a second round of pooling, and colleges without as high an uptake as they predicted in your subject can fish you out. A friend of mine went through this exact process, with the result that she has a choral scholarship from one college while attending another! It's not uncommon, so don't worry: even if things don't go as well as hoped, your application can still survive it. Good luck for the 16th!


Thanks for your detailed response! Is a bit reassuring, hopefully it goes well anyway! :smile:
Original post by sureofit
Thanks for your detailed response! Is a bit reassuring, hopefully it goes well anyway! :smile:


Hope so! I remember having the same paranoia the week before results, when no amount of reasoning would shift it!
Original post by SosbanFach
The University itself is trying its utmost to shake off this image of Cambridge as a place of unattainable ivory towers which 'isn't for people like us', but to do so it needs to distance itself from many centuries of a history when higher education was not so equitable.

Is this through the financial assistance schemes you guys mentioned earlier? Or are they doing other things too? That's always been my perception of Cambridge. Pretty elitist I guess...but you think that's shifting to become more inclusive?
Original post by Caitlin912912

Is this through the financial assistance schemes you guys mentioned earlier? Or are they doing other things too? That's always been my perception of Cambridge. Pretty elitist I guess...but you think that's shifting to become more inclusive?


As in my earlier post, there is the financial assistance that means no student drops out for financial reasoning. But, there is all the other schemes, visits, events etc that the university, departments and colleges run every single year. Everything from getting schools to visit Cambridge, to running residentials and summer schools, to subject tasters and masterclasses, to online content, to going into schoos to do presentations, talks, workshops, to, for example, the HE+ scheme that works with lots of schools in an area and runs academic sessions and projects for them. They work with kids from Y6 right up to school leavers, though predominantly Y10 upwards. They are very explicit about what they are looking for in a student, much more transparent than a lot of universities, actually (all the info is clearly stated and easily available online).

Millions of pounds every year is spent on this work trying to reach students from across the country, and every college and most if not all departments have people employed specifically for this purpose. I've just graduated, and now work doing this outreach and widening participation work. Even in the four years as a student, the student diversity has noticeably increased, and is increasing - there is absolutely a place for people of all backgrounds at Cambridge. They get a lot from the media, and that is good in ways as the pressure needs to be maintained, but it's often highly ignorant of what is already going on to make those changes.
Do you find that you are treated differently because you go to Cambridge?

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