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Can I do physiotherapy in university, get the degree and the become a physiotherapist in a sports club? or do I have to do some other course.
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Hey, my career goal is to be the physiotherapist for arsenal (I can dream right?) so whilst I have not started my degree yet I have spoke to a lot of people for advise and researched it a fair bit.From my understanding it is definately doable with the standard physiotherapy degree but in order to break into the best positions it is very very helpful to have a masters in sport and excercise medicine.Bradford university do a MPhysiotherapy degree which is all the sport and excercise medicine units integrated into the standard physiotherapy degree and they make sure your clinical placements are all sports related. When i interviewed i was very impressed with the facilites and the people there so i would highly recommend it, i really struggled with choosing Nottingham over them.Hope that helps, if you find anything interesting let me know as it will really help me too!
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Hey, my career goal is to be the physiotherapist for arsenal (I can dream right?) so whilst I have not started my degree yet I have spoke to a lot of people for advise and researched it a fair bit.From my understanding it is definately doable with the standard physiotherapy degree but in order to break into the best positions it is very very helpful to have a masters in sport and excercise medicine.Bradford university do a MPhysiotherapy degree which is all the sport and excercise medicine units integrated into the standard physiotherapy degree and they make sure your clinical placements are all sports related. When i interviewed i was very impressed with the facilites and the people there so i would highly recommend it, i really struggled with choosing Nottingham over them.Hope that helps, if you find anything interesting let me know as it will really help me too!
I would like to be a physiotherapist for a premier league team hopefully man utd. I was thinking of getting a physiotherapy degree and then working for united (better then arseanl right?
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Do you know which one would be easier/better physiotherapy or sports science.
With sports science i can do physiology with a sports club, not sure if i can do physiotherapy with a sports science degree.
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Do you know which one would be easier/better physiotherapy or sports science.
With sports science i can do physiology with a sports club, not sure if i can do physiotherapy with a sports science degree.
You need to complete a physiotherapy degree which is certified by CSOP to legally practise physiotherapy. You will find many sports clubs would rather have a physiotherapist than someone with a sports science/rehab degree as physiotherapy degrees are heavily regulated, which makes it a known quantity and is helpful regarding insurance.
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Ok, so this isn't going to be a quick journey for you. I have a friend who graduated with me 7 years ago and he is still trying to get into a premiership football setup - even for unpaid voluntary work. The reality is that regardless of what course you have taken, you aren't going to get your hands on Ronaldo unless you are the best. I wouldn't bother with the Msc above with the sports bias, simply because at the level you will be leaving, nobody is going to bat an eyelid. What is a 4 year Msc compared against someone who has 2 decades of experience, likely a masters anyway, and has worked their way up from volunteering at their local Sunday league team, through the academies and then into the first team setup at a big club? You will still need to complete core modules in resp / neuro etc etc, and then you get to spend another 2 years ontop of the normal masters doing sports specific stuff? You'd be better off just qualifying, doing your junior rotations and then specialising.

The route I would suggest is standard physiotherapy degree, or 18 month Msc if you have the relevant course to get you on it. Then, Band 5 NHS rotational role for a few years to make sure you want to do sports physio. You may well be convinced now - I was when I was training, I just wanted to be a sports physio, but when I actually started doing the job, I found that I fell in love with critical care and emergency medicine. Hated outpatients and sports stuff, and I spent a year in a private practice, and 18 months as a band 5 and then a band 6 in MSK, so I definitely did enough of trying to like it! I just hated it. Monotonous, boring, dull, etc etc, but then horses for courses etc.

Anyway, I digress slightly. Assuming you do like MSK, you would then look to get a static MSK Band 6 role, and then you are going to be in that for a few years. Do some masters modules then - you can do sports specific stuff if you want. Maybe look for a course that gets you MACP membership. Then, you can look to specialise further as a Band 7 MSK physio. This is the level that I would say is the mimimum experience for a big sports club to seriously look at you to even work with the youth academy. They have money. They can hire the best. Finish your masters, then off you go.

Now, maybe someone has got lucky, or shown enough talent that they have gone straight into the big time. I'm sure examples probably exist, but my point is this is the exception not the rule. I wouldn't touch that 4 years masters course at Bradford with a very long bargepole. Get the standard degree, get out, get experience, work bloody hard and maybe 10 - 15 years down the line you may be living your dream, assuming of course that you don't decide upon the way that you don't actually like sports physio after all as happened to me.
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Another thing that I have noticed over the years is that people seem to be doing masters as they think it will make them stand out. I'm currently doing a masters (not in MSK), and there are people on my course who are in their early 20's. They did the Bsc and then went straight into the masters. They are very bright kids, but they don't have the thousands of hours of clinical experience that people like me have to relate what they are learning. They score great in exams, but when on clinical placement or out in the real world, they falter. They can't deal with the patient screaming at them because their lunch is cold, or the emergency in resus with the quickly deteriorating elderly man. They freeze - I've seen it, the critical care nurse had to take over.

This is my big issue with the Msc you have highlighted above, and other courses such as this. You are trying to cram years of knowledge into what is in essence and undergraduate degree. You are so much better being patient. Do the pre-reg Bsc, work for a number of years getting patient mileage, and then do a masters and specialise. I work in a large London teaching hospital, and interview frequently for band 5 and 6's, and I really don't care if you have a masters or specialist knowledge at that level. It makes no difference to our recruiting decisions. You are still a junior member of staff, and what we want is someone who will just get their head down and work. Absolutely have dreams and aspirations, and I hope you achieve them, but be patient. You will gain far more from graduating and getting out into the real world than you ever will from a classroom and a flashy sounding masters.
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@ironmike so if i get a physiotherapy degree work for year (10+ years) in small sports clubs, gyms, hospitals etc. It will essentially be better then someone who has considerably less years of experience but has masters in physiotherapy for me getting accepted to work for a big sports club.
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@ironmike so if i get a physiotherapy degree work for year (10+ years) in small sports clubs, gyms, hospitals etc. It will essentially be better then someone who has considerably less years of experience but has masters in physiotherapy for me getting accepted to work for a big sports club.
In my quite experienced view, yes. Thing is, the two aren't mutually exclusive. My point is that you get the degree, you go get a number of years experience, and then you do your masters ontop. 10 years post grad, you will have the experience and a masters degree. More so, it will be a masters degree you benefitted from because you have lots of patient experience to make sense of the new knowledge, rather than just classroom experience.

An analogy I'd use is that people such as Lewis Hamilton didn't just jump straight in an F1 car. They took decades of experience to get to the point where they were the best. Put a rookie in an F1 car and let him race against Lewis Hamilton? He'll get his ass whooped, but will still be able to boast about being an F1 driver. Get the point?
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In my quite experienced view, yes. Thing is, the two aren't mutually exclusive. My point is that you get the degree, you go get a number of years experience, and then you do your masters ontop. 10 years post grad, you will have the experience and a masters degree. More so, it will be a masters degree you benefitted from because you have lots of patient experience to make sense of the new knowledge, rather than just classroom experience.

An analogy I'd use is that people such as Lewis Hamilton didn't just jump straight in an F1 car. They took decades of experience to get to the point where they were the best. Put a rookie in an F1 car and let him race against Lewis Hamilton? He'll get his ass whooped, but will still be able to boast about being an F1 driver. Get the point?
Thanks for your help. I am in year 12 going to year 13 and I am getting my btec results tomorrow. Hopefully i get good grades which allow me to go to university without me needing to retake the year.
Thanks for your help.
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Do you know which one would be easier/better physiotherapy or sports science.
With sports science i can do physiology with a sports club, not sure if i can do physiotherapy with a sports science degree.
I have a BSc in Physiotherapy and a masters in sports science working in a football team.. As far as I know, you can't do physiotherapy with a sports science degree.

Also if you want to be a sports physiotherapist you just need to have a physiotherapy degree and then looking for a job in sports... football clubs etc.. and first aid in sports!
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