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The Swedish Democrats, nationalist party is leading in the polls.

At this point I bet you are expecting me to say something like, how terrible, how can we stop it.

How terrible that a European country maintains its own laws, it’s own borders, it’s own language; it’s own money, doesn’t give away its taxpayers money, and doesn’t have to be told to take millions of fake refugees. How terrible that is doesn’t have to denigrate it’s own people using Guardian style 60s social theory revolution and revolution against western culture.

How terrible that it’s people are not brainwashed with double standards like the encouragement to rip Christianity apart yet worry about the slightest comments about Islam, like a Niqab looking like a letterbox.

How terrible that it’s people are not media slaves with faux outrage claiming offence to every word or concept that the media tells them to take offence to, things that they would never have worried about 20 years ago, on a continuous never ending sliding scale. How terrible that this brainwashed mob won’t go deplatforming and censoring Conservatives accusing them of conspiracy theories while making up the biggest boldest lies of all timed, Russian collusion, paid trump supporters, no such thing has gender, white people cause oppressions.

Everything they stand for is truth and everything people like media pundits and major political parties stand for is a lie.
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They are going to win or come a close second. But they aren't going to be allowed into government and so will grow stronger and stronger, but it is too late to change course now.

Sweden is a total mess. Finished in the long term. They had the most wonderful country, economically strong, socially cohesive, egalitarian, peaceful, the envy of most of the world.

Then they decided to let huge numbers of immigrants in from the third world, mostly Muslim in a virtue signalling quest to become a "humanitarian superpower." The naivety and stupidity was breathtaking. Women can't walk the streets safely any more, people are picking up discarded grenades and getting blown up, drug gangs fight in the cities, the welfare state is falling apart as hard working Swedes resent paying for non working immigrants living off them.

And by the end of the century Swedes will be a minority in Sweden. It will be an Islamic political and social entity. A western nation has committed suicide.
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I find it strange that all you lot can do is insessently whine about this so called Islamic horde who by all accounts arent behaving especially badly - Germanys crime level is at a record low and much of the so called immigrant crime in Sweden is being committed by African migrants, previous round of immigrants and second generation ones from eastern europe and what not.

You might well be right that their is a cultural misalignment going on but at least try and blame the right group. Last time I checked there was nothing in the Koran telling Muslims to go forth and mug people in the west.
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They are going to win or come a close second. But they aren't going to be allowed into government and so will grow stronger and stronger, but it is too late to change course now.

Sweden is a total mess. Finished in the long term. They had the most wonderful country, economically strong, socially cohesive, egalitarian, peaceful, the envy of most of the world.

Then they decided to let huge numbers of immigrants in from the third world, mostly Muslim in a virtue signalling quest to become a "humanitarian superpower." The naivety and stupidity was breathtaking. Women can't walk the streets safely any more, people are picking up discarded grenades and getting blown up, drug gangs fight in the cities, the welfare state is falling apart as hard working Swedes resent paying for non working immigrants living off them.

And by the end of the century Swedes will be a minority in Sweden. It will be an Islamic political and social entity. A western nation has committed suicide.
They certainly appear to be the Canary in the European coal mine.
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Europe needs a sacrificial lamb to wake it from its slumber.

Sweden was kind enough to volunteer
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I find it strange that all you lot can do is insessently whine about this so called Islamic horde who by all accounts arent behaving especially badly - Germanys crime level is at a record low and much of the so called immigrant crime in Sweden is being committed by African migrants
It sounds less racist to blame it on Arabs (or "muslim culture") than black Africans.

Talk to almost any southern/eastern European about gypsies - you'll hear a lot of Hitler-esque rhetoric, which they justify by saying they hate gypsy 'culture' rather than gypsies themselves.

It is a similar thing with Arabs. It is far more difficult to use that kind of dog-whistle racism against black people though, since many are Christian and adopted the culture of their colonial masters.
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P.S. Swedish Democrats aren't leading in the polls, and never have, if you pay attention to the more accurate moving averages rather than individual polls. They are near their 2015 peak of 22.5%, though.

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Good White people taking back their homeland stolen from us by people like TS

Death to Merkel and these traitors destroying everything I our ancestors built
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Inevitable and predictable . Racism is real and shows the good and bag eggs of society . Sweden is no different to any European country . This is merely the start of a tidal wave of outrage and action . Much tougher laws on immigration and immigrants will be the norm . Britain will become Muslim by 2055 and no one can now stop it . Leicester already is .
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(Original post by AngeryPenguin)
P.S. Swedish Democrats aren't leading in the polls, and never have, if you pay attention to the more accurate moving averages rather than individual polls. They are near their 2015 peak of 22.5%, though.

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Wait till the day after the election and you will find their support has been underestimated all along (sometimes the excuse is there has been "a last minute swing".

It happened with Trump who every pollster knew would lose. It happened with Brexit which all the polls said would lead to Remain. And it will happen here.
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I've just spent 10 days in Sweden. Within an hour of us arriving, a man who I'm guessing was a Muslim told us to go back where we came from. Most of the young people we met openly carried knives and everywhere I went there were foreigners, not speaking the language.

To explain further, we got lost trying to find the right metro line at Stockholm central station and came up to street level. A dark-skinned man with a large beard walked past, noticed that we appeared lost, and came back to offer help. He explained in pretty good English that we needed to return to the lower level. Stockholm had just started its Pride festival so there were lots of same-sex couples partying in the streets, which is quite surprising for a country that is apparently close to being under sharia law. There were several women wearing traditional Muslim dress at the station too - they also had hi-vis jackets and were giving information to passengers.

The children carrying knives were all scouts. 1,600 boys and girls aged from 9 to 18, all getting along fine for the week. Some were from different countries and some of the Swedes were different ethnicities but they were able to work and live together with no difficulties at all. I presume you are aware that Swedish nationality includes the Sami people?

The reason for me seeing so many foreigners not speaking the language was because I was one of them.

Other things we saw in Sweden were a complete absence of homelessness, even on the streets of the capital city. A high standard of living and much better municipal sports facilities paid for by relatively high taxation. The only crime we saw was our Swedish host driving at 48 kmh in a 40 zone. We lived alongside our Swedish hosts for 10 days, and the issue of immigration arose only twice. Firstly there had been several recent drownings as people swam in cold lakes, and the number of migrants dying was proportionately higher because they were less aware of the risks than people who had lived there all their lives. Secondly, a primary school teacher said that her class size had increased. We were also told that the people who vote for the 'so called progressive party' were mostly those of low intelligence.

Update: the two most recent polls put the Swedish Democrats in third place, polling below 20%.
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I've just spent 10 days in Sweden.
A tourist visiting touristy places saying he enjoyed his holiday (though, naturally, as a literature teacher you had to embelish it). The only surprise being that you think it makes you an expert on politics there. Even more so than the large number of Swedes who are predicte to vote for the SD.

The reason for me seeing so many foreigners not speaking the language was because I was one of them.
What a twist!


Other things we saw in Sweden were a complete absence of homelessness, even on the streets of the capital city.
Which is funny, because even back in 2011, before the refugee crisis, Sweden had a higher rate of homelessness than most EU countries, at 0.36% - beaten only by the UK at 0.43%. Austria, France, Netherlands, even Greece have 0.21% or under.

You saw what you wanted to see. If you did actually see what you claim.

A high standard of living and much better municipal sports facilities paid for by relatively high taxation.
True (although it is income tax that is high, corporate tax is same level or lower than most EU countries).

But what has that got to do with anything? The SD is economically left-wing.
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"Wait till the day after the election and you will find their support has been underestimated all along (sometimes the excuse is there has been "a last minute swing"Image."
We'll see.
As you say it was the same with Trump and Brexit , and it was the same with John Major Vs Kinock.
Shy voters made to feel shamed by the left-wing elites in the media for saying that they will vote rightwing. Come the election in the privacy of the booth they vote how they really feel.
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If youre Swedish and aren't particularly on board with policy of acceptance of immigrants what will realising that you are 1.9% of the European population but are taking in 43% unaccompanied minors do to the way you vote?
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Why care about immigrants these people have a homeland we only have one which has been taken by us by traitors


Off with their heads
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I've just spent 10 days in Sweden.
Fair play, you are obviously an expert.

(Original post by Lit teacher)
Update: the two most recent polls put the Swedish Democrats in third place, polling below 20%.
Let's reconvene after the election to see if they get below 20%. Is that a deal?

(By the way, you are the chap. as I recall, who was arguing that Tommy Robinson's conviction was an expression of the freedoms achieved by Magna Carta.
Do you still believe that now, what with him having being unlawfully convicted and sent to prison? And with the cessation of imprisonment without a free and fair trial being one of the historic achievements of Magna Carta?)
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Fair play, you are obviously an expert.
Not an expert, but travel does broaden the mind. How many times have you visited? When you visit a place it becomes a lot easier to spot the BS. Just like what happened to Trumps ambassador to the Netherlands when he got caught out spouting anti-islamic lies. I don't know if the Sweden Democrats will get up to 20% of the vote. I would suggest that on their current showing they will come third, losing out to a socialist left-wing party and play no part at all in government.

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(By the way, you are the chap. as I recall, who was arguing that Tommy Robinson's conviction was an expression of the freedoms achieved by Magna Carta.
Do you still believe that now, what with him having being unlawfully convicted and sent to prison? And with the cessation of imprisonment without a free and fair trial being one of the historic achievements of Magna Carta?)
Just to clarify, since you seem to have trouble remembering. The Magna Carta introduced everyone's right to a fair trial. It was this right to a fair trial that Yaxley-Lennon was jeopardising by his publicity stunt. Ironically, the only people who would have benefited from his interference were the defendants. Luckily Yaxley-Lennon was stopped, a fair trial ensued and the guilty people got locked up.

I believe you were the chap who claimed that convicted fraudster Yaxley-Lennon had changed his name to Tommy Robinson and therefore we all had to call him that. It appears that not only did he not get this message, but he admits to being paranoid and he made his complaints with the sole purpose of being allowed more spending money.
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I wish the United Kingdom has a similar electoral system to Sweden. The only differences in terms of social issues between Sweden and the UK are basically that the UK has less socialism - a bounty for the far-right in terms of gaining capital.
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Not an expert, but travel does broaden the mind. How many times have you visited? When you visit a place it becomes a lot easier to spot the BS. Just like what happened to Trumps ambassador to the Netherlands when he got caught out spouting anti-islamic lies. I don't know if the Sweden Democrats will get up to 20% of the vote. I would suggest that on their current showing they will come third, losing out to a socialist left-wing party and play no part at all in government.
It is certainly true that the Sweden Democrats won't play any role in government after the election, even if they come first. They are pariahs and no other party will work with them. We can therefore forecast with a reasonable certitude that Sweden will be weak, politically, after the election, with a substantial percentage of the electorate totally opposed to current immigration and refugee policies, yet disenfranchised.

We can also expect the other parties to move to the right on refugee and immigration matters, indeed they already are doing.

(Original post by Lit teacher)
Just to clarify, since you seem to have trouble remembering. The Magna Carta introduced everyone's right to a fair trial. It was this right to a fair trial that Yaxley-Lennon was jeopardising by his publicity stunt. Ironically, the only people who would have benefited from his interference were the defendants. Luckily Yaxley-Lennon was stopped, a fair trial ensued and the guilty people got locked up.
Tommy didn't prevent anyone getting a fair trial. The Leeds trial he was reporting on as a citizen journalist and human rights campaigner has been completed and the verdicts have already been handed out (although not publicised yet.) Nor were his actions necessarily even Contempt of Court. He was simply reading out information already in the public domain as it had been published in the Guardian. Now it is true that he was tried and convicted of Contempt of Court at a kangeroo court presided over by the same judge as the other trial, but that verdict has been quashed. He is due to be retried, and is innocent until proven guilty. Magna Carta.

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I believe you were the chap who claimed that convicted fraudster Yaxley-Lennon had changed his name to Tommy Robinson and therefore we all had to call him that. It appears that not only did he not get this message, but he admits to being paranoid and he made his complaints with the sole purpose of being allowed more spending money.
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I don't know where you got that document but if it is genuine (and it certainly looks it) that is an extraordinary breach of confidentiality on the part of Her Majesty's Prison Service, and a flagrant breach of his human rights. It hardly helps your case though, as it demonstrates that so lax were the latter that they allowed Muslim inmates to prepare his food. Understandably he refused to eat it. Remember he was placed in a cell opposite the prison "mosque" and subject to faeces being thrown through his window by these same prisoners, so clearly it was not safe to eat.

My point about you having to call him Tommy was a dig at the left's hypocrisy, with their ideology that others must respect those who self identify their gender, and something of a joke. Since you seem to have no discernible sense of humour obviously you didn't realise that.
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