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I've enrolled to both but of course I need to drop out of one of these sixth forms. I don't know which one to go to. If I go to NCS, I will study Biology, Chemistry and Maths. If I go to Brampton, I will study those same three subjects plus Psychology.
>Which sixth form will be better for me?
>Which sixth form has better teachers?
>Which sixth form will provide the best help with UCAS and getting into a Russel Group uni?
>What trips / work experience / enrichment are there for the maths and science department for both of these sixth forms?
>Is it really true they kick people out at the end of Y12 if they don't get a minimum of a C in everything?
>Is doing 4 a levels worth it?
>How helpful do you feel the teachers are at trying to get to the grades you want?
>Is either sixth form stricter than the other?
>Which sixth form has a better student environment?
>What is the workload like? How often do you see yourself studying/revising to keep up?

Sorry for all of these questions. My mock results were s*** so I never bothered checking these places out or applying to them but now my real results are really good so I just enrolled to these sixth forms. However, I don't have much time to find out a lot about them! Any responses would be hugely appreciated.
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(Original post by earthworm206)
I've enrolled to both but of course I need to drop out of one of these sixth forms. I don't know which one to go to. If I go to NCS, I will study Biology, Chemistry and Maths. If I go to Brampton, I will study those same three subjects plus Psychology.
>Which sixth form will be better for me?
>Which sixth form has better teachers?
>Which sixth form will provide the best help with UCAS and getting into a Russel Group uni?
>What trips / work experience / enrichment are there for the maths and science department for both of these sixth forms?
>Is it really true they kick people out at the end of Y12 if they don't get a minimum of a C in everything?
>Is doing 4 a levels worth it?
>How helpful do you feel the teachers are at trying to get to the grades you want?
>Is either sixth form stricter than the other?
>Which sixth form has a better student environment?
>What is the workload like? How often do you see yourself studying/revising to keep up?

Sorry for all of these questions. My mock results were s*** so I never bothered checking these places out or applying to them but now my real results are really good so I just enrolled to these sixth forms. However, I don't have much time to find out a lot about them! Any responses would be hugely appreciated.
What results did you attain for your gcses?
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What results did you attain for your gcses?
Eng Lang - 6
Eng Lit - 8
Maths - 7
Combined Science: Trilogy - 9,9
Religious Studies - 8
French - 7
Geography - 7
ICT - Distinction

I'm a bit worried that these GCSE's aren't good enough to keep up with the competitive nature of these two sixth forms.
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Eng Lang - 6
Eng Lit - 8
Maths - 7
Combined Science: Trilogy - 9,9
Religious Studies - 8
French - 7
Geography - 7
ICT - Distinction

I'm a bit worried that these GCSE's aren't good enough to keep up with the competitive nature of these two sixth forms.
Did you go to the enrolment days?How do you know that you have a place? And
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It is true NCS does kick out students if you don’t do good , both are really good
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Did you go to the enrolment days?How do you know that you have a place? And
Yup I went to the enrolment day yesterday for both sixth forms and both of them gave me a definite place.
Edit: I know I got it because they gave me all these letters to complete and hand to them on the first day of school. Got my timetable and stuff too.
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Yup I went to the enrolment day yesterday for both sixth forms and both of them gave me a definite place.
I missed the enrolment day?Do you think that I will be able to get in??If so, how??
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https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sea...eard%29.&q=NCS

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I missed the enrolment day?Do you think that I will be able to get in??If so, how??
Oh no Email them and ask if them and ask if they have any spaces left and if there is a day available to pop in and talk about enrolment. If no day is available, you might have to just send them your grades and say what A Levels you'd like to do (tbh they only care about grades and nothing else so there wont be much discussion). If they have a space, ask them to post you any relevant documents you need to complete for enrolment. If they don't have any spaces left, don't be disappointed. A lot of people change sixth forms and move around during the first few weeks of school. You can try and see if more spaces open up then by calling them. As long as your gcses meet their entry requirements, I don't see why they would say no.

Best of luck which sixth form did you want to go to and what A levels do you want to do there? x
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Oh no Email them and ask if them and ask if they have any spaces left and if there is a day available to pop in and talk about enrolment. If no day is available, you might have to just send them your grades and say what A Levels you'd like to do (tbh they only care about grades and nothing else so there wont be much discussion). If they have a space, ask them to post you any relevant documents you need to complete for enrolment. If they don't have any spaces left, don't be disappointed. A lot of people change sixth forms and move around during the first few weeks of school. You can try and see if more spaces open up then by calling them. As long as your gcses meet their entry requirements, I don't see why they would say no.

Best of luck which sixth form did you want to go to and what A levels do you want to do there? x
I would like to go to one of them, I do have an offer for both, however I missed the enrolment days.What were the entry requirements for NCS?
I want to do biology, Chemistry, RE,Politics.
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It is true NCS does kick out students if you don’t do good , both are really good
ah, i see. Which one do you think is better? I'm gonna do science and maths, and NCS specialise in science and maths so that's good. A lot of opportunities for work experience, trips, lectures, etc. are for science it seems. However I don't like their school environment and the strict rules. I don't know if I can keep up with everyone else.
On the other hand, I like Brampton's student environment better and I think their teaching is better too. They are more well-rounded in terms of subjects so there aren't many major benefits to being a science and maths student there.
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I would like to go to one of them, I do have an offer for both, however I missed the enrolment days.What were the entry requirements for NCS?
I want to do biology, Chemistry, RE,Politics.
This is what NCS say if you've missed their enrolment day:
"It may be that some applicants do not achieve their predicted grades, or decide not to attend the NCS following acceptance of their offer. We will therefore establish a waiting list, with applicants prioritised in line with our over subscription criteria. The waiting list will operate up to the end of the first half term of any academic year. In year admissions will not be accepted after that due to the specialist nature of the provision."

Brampton doesn't say anything specific about missing their enrolment day, but after I enrolled, I heard teachers telling students to go to a different sixth form since spaces are going rapidly. There is no waiting list for people who have offers, so it is likely someone has taken your place. You just have to try and contact them in September and see if they can give you a place.

NCS entry requirements are shown here:
http://www.thencs.co.uk/ncs-entry-requirements/

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https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sea...eard%29.&q=NCS

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Thanks but I am in that thread already
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This is what NCS say if you've missed their enrolment day:
"It may be that some applicants do not achieve their predicted grades, or decide not to attend the NCS following acceptance of their offer. We will therefore establish a waiting list, with applicants prioritised in line with our over subscription criteria. The waiting list will operate up to the end of the first half term of any academic year. In year admissions will not be accepted after that due to the specialist nature of the provision."

Brampton doesn't say anything specific about missing their enrolment day, but after I enrolled, I heard teachers telling students to go to a different sixth form since spaces are going rapidly. There is no waiting list for people who have offers, so it is likely someone has taken your place. You just have to try and contact them in September and see if they can give you a place.

NCS entry requirements are shown here:
http://www.thencs.co.uk/ncs-entry-requirements/

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Thanks so much, I feel as though my grades are rubbish though - two 6s two 7s and two 8s. I emailed the NCS teacher and they haven’t got back to me ://
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Thanks so much, I feel as though my grades are rubbish though - two 6s two 7s and two 8s. I emailed the NCS teacher and they haven’t got back to me ://
As long as you've met all of your predicted grades or exceeded them, then it's fine
By the way, I have looked into what NCS includes in their over-subscription criteria and unfortunately it does not include people who got offers. They include people who attended a secondary school that NCS has partnered with and people with the highest grades. For Brampton, they will consider people with the highest grades and also people who live the closest to their sixth form.

Have you already enrolled into a sixth form?
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Honestly, don't go NCS. The environment you study is very important and as an NCS student, I can say that they drain the people who go there. They suck out your happiness and stick them on the walls. They manufacture excellence but everyone come out with depression. You can literally tell the Year 13s out from Year 12's because the new ones are getting started and they don't know what the institution is going to do to them.
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Honestly, don't go NCS. The environment you study us very important and as an NCS student, I can say that they drain the people who go there. They suck out your happiness and stick them on the walls. They manufacture excellence but everyone come out with depression. You can literally tell the Year 13s out from Year 12's because the new ones are getting started and they don't know what the institution is going to do to them.
Oh wow... good thing I chose not to go to NCS then...
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OK sorry for reviving this thread but i'm in a very similar situation, except I haven't done my GCSE's yet. Thankfully I am predicted 6 8's, and 3 7's, and already have an A*.
I've been to both NCS and Brampton's open days and I really liked them and I want to know more about why you don't like NCS, or with Brampton as well. or can you just give me an insight into a day at each, or the differences/ pros and cons

many thanks in advance
a very confused girl in year 11
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OK sorry for reviving this thread but i'm in a very similar situation, except I haven't done my GCSE's yet. Thankfully I am predicted 6 8's, and 3 7's, and already have an A*.
I've been to both NCS and Brampton's open days and I really liked them and I want to know more about why you don't like NCS, or with Brampton as well. or can you just give me an insight into a day at each, or the differences/ pros and cons

many thanks in advance
a very confused girl in year 11
ooh hi there. i currently go to brampton! honestly speaking its kinda stressful here because they set a lot of tests but i guess thats a good thing because it forces you to revise often. if you pick subjects you're good at and you like then this shouldnt be a big issue. (Please pick your subjects wisely!! The teachers tell you on the first day that you can swap a subject during the first week but it's actually very difficult to convince them to change...) if you do poorly on a test (you usually need at least 80% to pass) then you do resits and put you in intervention.

The teaching is good, if not decent. I mainly do maths and science subjects and I can tell you that the teaching is very fast paced. We still do AS Levels, so they teach you AS level content first and this is usually finished by february or march at the latest. The rest of the year is revision.


We get independant study periods everyday so use them wisely! Often in lessons youre too busy writing notes so make sure you finish incomplete worksheets or do any homework during your study periods. You get a lot of homework so it's so important to stay on top of everything. We're not given free periods btw, and we cant leave the school grounds but it's okay since theres not much to do outside of school anyway.

Overall, it feels like a school. Not really like a college. But that is to be expected anyway.

As for NCS, I know some people who are currently going there. I will list some differences:
- you have a choice of doing 3 or 4 subjects at NCS. At BMA, you must do 4 subjects in year 12 however you have the option of dropping one of them in year 13. Whether you do 3 or 4 is up to you. If i went to NCS, i would have done 3 (bio,chem,maths) but at bma i do those three plus psychology. It has made me realise that i dont want to do maths so at least i have the option of doing bio chem psych instead. Picking 3 is probably better because less stress lmao but 4 isnt too bad, esp if you are unsure of what you want your final three subjects to be.
- at ncs you get one teacher for every subject. After speaking to some students there, they seemed quite far behind in terms of content mainly due to this reason. For us we get two teachers for each subject. Each of them teaches a different side of the spec so we get a lot done in a shorter time. However this does mean we get loadsss of hw so if you just want a slightly less fast pace, i guess ncs would be better.
- ncs does a levels, not as levels. This means that they jusy learn content as it comes in the spec and just aim to finish it within 2 years. For us, we treat AS (y12 content) and A2 (y13 content) separately. Doesnt really matter if u do as levels first then a2 levels or just mix them both. If you dont want big end of y12 exams then dont go to bma. However AS grades allow you to have more accurate and realistic predicted grades which go to the unis you apply for.
- enrichment: i dont think ncs has enrichment?? For us we have one hour a week where we choose to do an activity that is supposed to give us loads of extracurricular activities to write about in your uni application. E.g. duke of edinburgh, primary school mentoring, acting, foreign languages, sports, debating, art, etc.
- we have a university access team that sends weekly emails listing many opportunities to apply for that will strengthen your uni application further. E.g. work experience, lectures, workshops, competitions. Correct me if im wrong but i think at ncs you have to directly ask the headteacher for opportunities like this. However i heard ncs students get some good stuff this way too, two girls went to dubai i think for something to do with law?? Im not sure.
- at ncs you get 2 hours of private srudy a week (at least in y12, idk abour y13). At bma you get 5 hours of private study a week in y12 and 10 hours a week for y13. This may not be important to you because you can always work at home but for me it's important because i get most of my work done at school so that i have time to revise at home.
- at ncs theres no common room and i think no study centre? My friends at ncs complain that theres nowhere for them to go during breaktimes and lunchtimes since theres no facility for students to lounge around. Also they always have to use east ham library but its always full. Dont want to make it seem like ncs is bad and bma is good but bma does have a common room and a study centre open from 6am to 6pm which i practically live in! (I spend so much time in there!)

Anyone who goes to ncs please feel free to correct me on what ive said because im just going off what my friends told me.
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So sorry for the long post!
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