Why do people hate Communism so much?

Because they didn't want Communism on their doorstep any more than the Soviets did with Democracy on theirs?

what would be the incentive to come to work every day if ur not gaining for urself

Technically but its deeper than that, "they attempted to kill him 638 times to be exact simply because Cuba despite the interference was doing well, extraordinarily well, revealing that capitalism was not as perfect as it portrayed itself to be. So they decided to try to kill him because they thought he could potentially incite a revolution in america."

You gain more. Not only would you be helping EVERYONE who lives in the same country as you, but also yourself, by working you would pay taxes that in turn pay for everything you need...

no i meant what does the individual get out of it for themselves, in essence how can they put themselves above the rest. That's the driving force behind human ingenuity. the" how can i be better than him" mentality is key for survival or else u loose purpose and just give up

20 million killed by Stalin
45 million killed by Mao
1.5-3million killed by Pol Pot

Not exactly a rosy past....

Right, so at least as far as I'm concerned Communism is the best economic and political ideology ever invented. No, I do not mean Soviet 'Communism', Chinese 'Communism', Cuban, North Korean, Vietnamese, Yugoslav, etc, etc, 'Communism'. As far as I'm concerned, those are all closer to Fascism than they are to real Communism in the sense that Marx envisioned (except Chinese 'Communism', that is closest to a Bourgeois Dictatorship).

So in case you didn't know exactly what I mean by this, I mean a highly decentralised, united world state where the collective resources of society produced by workers according to their ability all across the globe are pooled and redistributed according to need (ie if you biologically have a fast metabolism, you need more food than someone with slow metabolism, a healthy person doesn't need medication, etc), and then excess commodities and goods are completely equally distributed. The ideas of society shift, because, to directly quote the Communist Manifesto:

"Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that man's ideas, views and conceptions, in one word, mans consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life?What else does the history of ideas proeve, than that intellectual production changrs in chartacter in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of it's ruling class."

Towards a mindset where, instead of being driven to great deeds by a motive for profit, they are instead motivated by a desire to help others, which helps themselves, because in a Communist society the condition for the betterment of the self is the betterment of all.

Before anyone argues "oh but then what if I do more work than this person why do I get paid the same", this is even more prevalent in Capitalist society. A doctor is a member of society many times more valuable and more hard working than a footballer, and yet a footballer is paid an order of magnitude more money than a doctor is. Equally, while you might scoff at a lowly sewage worker, or a bin man, claiming they do no real work and are lucky to get the salaries they have, consider for a moment what your street would look like if those menial workers decided to stop working for even a fortnight, and then decide whether or not those workers do an important, difficult job.

So, then, it is clear to me that Communism, as a theory, and presumably in practice (although obviously after letting Capitalism mature, then going through Socialsm, to gradually reform into Communism), is ideological perfection. Why, then, do people hate it so much? People seem to hate it almost as much as Nazism!

I will disregard my own opinions on the effectiveness of communism as an ideology and answer your question. People hate Communism because most of them are not aware of the distinction between an ideal communism approach and the brand of communism that is spread by Russia. This connotes dictatorship/ corruption/ economic stagnation. I don’t blame them considering that is the most developed type of Communism and the closest that Marxism was widespread

We are group animals, have you considered that the 'mentality' you speak of is just a another part of capitalism imprinted upon you to encourage you to rise above other while leaving them below you; as I said earlier we are group animals, we need to work together if we wish to prolong human existence other wise humanity will be bound to go extinct in the next 2000 years. In communism rather than being better than others you are encouraged to help others!

If you still don't agree consider my anecdote:

A man lives with a tribe in a snowy mountain, he is stronger as well as faster than the others:

The tribe has very little food but a mammoth is in the area,

he is presented with two options, he could go after the mammoth himself, it is extremely risky but he would receive the praise of the tribe and could take the largest portion or he could go with the others, teach them how to be better while lowering the risk for himself but receive less praise, in a thousand years the man would be forgotten despite his decision but the decisions consequences would not; he would be dead as would be his tribe thus making his decision almost redundant, BUT if he chose to help the others and teach them rather than going for self gain they would remember and pass down their skills to their children and like that the tribe would progress further...

I know this is extremely pessimistic but we will all be dead and likely forgotten in 150 years but our actions will still be imprinted on society, so do you choose to make a long term decision that helps a multitude of others, or the short term decision that helps you now for self gain that will be forgotten...


(I know this is long winded but I hope you get my point.)

It's the greatest no true Scotsman fallacy to ever exist that we see being defended here, really.

If I tell you it’s possible to hold you breath under water for half an hour and people keep trying and failing and I say ‘they weren’t doing it properly’ - how long before you say ‘I don’t think it’s possible’?

If I tell you it’s possible to hold you breath under water for half an hour and people keep trying and failing and I say ‘they weren’t doing it properly’ - how long before you say ‘I don’t think it’s possible’?

I guess I want more local communal policies, and less national and international communal policies, as that's the scale where I can clearly see good evidence of communal ideals being a huge success and benefit to those living there.

Right, so at least as far as I'm concerned Communism is the best economic and political ideology ever invented. No, I do not mean Soviet 'Communism', Chinese 'Communism', Cuban, North Korean, Vietnamese, Yugoslav, etc, etc, 'Communism'. As far as I'm concerned, those are all closer to Fascism than they are to real Communism in the sense that Marx envisioned (except Chinese 'Communism', that is closest to a Bourgeois Dictatorship).

So in case you didn't know exactly what I mean by this, I mean a highly decentralised, united world state where the collective resources of society produced by workers according to their ability all across the globe are pooled and redistributed according to need (ie if you biologically have a fast metabolism, you need more food than someone with slow metabolism, a healthy person doesn't need medication, etc), and then excess commodities and goods are completely equally distributed. The ideas of society shift, because, to directly quote the Communist Manifesto:

"Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that man's ideas, views and conceptions, in one word, mans consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life?What else does the history of ideas proeve, than that intellectual production changrs in chartacter in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of it's ruling class."

Towards a mindset where, instead of being driven to great deeds by a motive for profit, they are instead motivated by a desire to help others, which helps themselves, because in a Communist society the condition for the betterment of the self is the betterment of all.

Before anyone argues "oh but then what if I do more work than this person why do I get paid the same", this is even more prevalent in Capitalist society. A doctor is a member of society many times more valuable and more hard working than a footballer, and yet a footballer is paid an order of magnitude more money than a doctor is. Equally, while you might scoff at a lowly sewage worker, or a bin man, claiming they do no real work and are lucky to get the salaries they have, consider for a moment what your street would look like if those menial workers decided to stop working for even a fortnight, and then decide whether or not those workers do an important, difficult job.

So, then, it is clear to me that Communism, as a theory, and presumably in practice (although obviously after letting Capitalism mature, then going through Socialsm, to gradually reform into Communism), is ideological perfection. Why, then, do people hate it so much? People seem to hate it almost as much as Nazism!