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Why do people hate Communism so much?

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Again, I don't get what point you're trying to make. I'm not actually arguing about the origins of private property, I've even said that I don't ultimately think it matters for this discussion, rather it is the principle and consequences of private property that I would object to.
Because it's a flawed political system that may sound PASSABLE on paper, but in reality, when implemented, it is revealed to be complete b o l l o c k s

Original post by MarxistCommunist
Right, so at least as far as I'm concerned Communism is the best economic and political ideology ever invented. No, I do not mean Soviet 'Communism', Chinese 'Communism', Cuban, North Korean, Vietnamese, Yugoslav, etc, etc, 'Communism'. As far as I'm concerned, those are all closer to Fascism than they are to real Communism in the sense that Marx envisioned (except Chinese 'Communism', that is closest to a Bourgeois Dictatorship).

So in case you didn't know exactly what I mean by this, I mean a highly decentralised, united world state where the collective resources of society produced by workers according to their ability all across the globe are pooled and redistributed according to need (ie if you biologically have a fast metabolism, you need more food than someone with slow metabolism, a healthy person doesn't need medication, etc), and then excess commodities and goods are completely equally distributed. The ideas of society shift, because, to directly quote the Communist Manifesto:

"Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that man's ideas, views and conceptions, in one word, mans consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life?What else does the history of ideas proeve, than that intellectual production changrs in chartacter in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of it's ruling class."

Towards a mindset where, instead of being driven to great deeds by a motive for profit, they are instead motivated by a desire to help others, which helps themselves, because in a Communist society the condition for the betterment of the self is the betterment of all.

Before anyone argues "oh but then what if I do more work than this person why do I get paid the same", this is even more prevalent in Capitalist society. A doctor is a member of society many times more valuable and more hard working than a footballer, and yet a footballer is paid an order of magnitude more money than a doctor is. Equally, while you might scoff at a lowly sewage worker, or a bin man, claiming they do no real work and are lucky to get the salaries they have, consider for a moment what your street would look like if those menial workers decided to stop working for even a fortnight, and then decide whether or not those workers do an important, difficult job.

So, then, it is clear to me that Communism, as a theory, and presumably in practice (although obviously after letting Capitalism mature, then going through Socialsm, to gradually reform into Communism), is ideological perfection. Why, then, do people hate it so much? People seem to hate it almost as much as Nazism!
The bit I don't get is that so many people seem to think that Communism is good in theory, but not in practice. It's awful in theory and worse in practice.

Thirty minutes of rationale discussion should make it clear to anyone why it's utterly failed.
Because in practice it's just fascism with slightly better PR.
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Original post by Andrew97
20 million killed by Stalin
45 million killed by Mao
1.5-3million killed by Pol Pot

Not exactly a rosy past....

But those facts have nothing to do with actual Communism. It says more about the people that perpetrated them than the ideals of true Communism (i.e.not facism under the banner of a 'so called' communist society such as Russia, which clearly still has a capitalist elite)