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Hi guys! I’m doing English BA hons course and want to teach in a British curriculum school in the Dubai/uae.
After my course I’m aware that I’ll need to do a pgce and pay, and I’ll need a qualified teacher status (QTS)
Do I have to pay for the QTS too I’m a bit confused on how to go about getting that, or do you teach in a school and they sort it out..?
And also what is a NQS?
Other than this I’m also aware of CELTA however unsure as to whether i need it. Since CELTA is for people with no teaching experience should I do that before the PGCE, or in the summer of my degree. Or do the PGCE alongside getting my teaching qualification QTS in a school, and then do CELTA?
I also want to do a masters too however with all these qualifications desired it seems like it would take so much time for me to actually go abroad and teach!
Please respond if you have an idea on what course I should take and what the schools are looking for in British curriculum schools.
I would very much appreciate it!!!
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Hi guys! I’m doing English BA hons course and want to teach in a British curriculum school in the Dubai/uae.
After my course I’m aware that I’ll need to do a pgce and pay, and I’ll need a qualified teacher status (QTS)
Do I have to pay for the QTS too I’m a bit confused on how to go about getting that, or do you teach in a school and they sort it out..?
And also what is a NQS?
Other than this I’m also aware of CELTA however unsure as to whether i need it. Since CELTA is for people with no teaching experience should I do that before the PGCE, or in the summer of my degree. Or do the PGCE alongside getting my teaching qualification QTS in a school, and then do CELTA?
I also want to do a masters too however with all these qualifications desired it seems like it would take so much time for me to actually go abroad and teach!
Please respond if you have an idea on what course I should take and what the schools are looking for in British curriculum schools.
I would very much appreciate it!!!
1. You don't pay for QTS. You get this once you qualify and pass your PGCE or whatever teaching qualification you need to become a qualified teacher. It's basically the awarded to you upon completion of your postgrad qualification.

2. Never heard of a NQS. I've heard of NQT (Newly Qualified Teacher/Teaching Status).

3. CELTA is really for anyone who wishes to teach in Europe or Asia. Although Asia generally prefers a PGCE. But CELTA is really for anyone who wants to teach English as a foreign language - either in Britain or Europe. This is different from a PGCE. A PGCE means you'd be qualified to teach any subject, but be a specialist teacher in the subject you trained to teach. Whereas a CELTA will only allow you to teach English as a foreign language. So phonetics, alphabet, writing, reading and listening skills really. That's all.

4. I would recommend you ignore the CELTA and go straight for the PGCE.

5. If you want to teach in Dubai, you need to find out information on whatever website - Dubai's government website or you can get in touch with teaching.gov and they might be able to direct you more openly.

6. If you want to teach English abroad, namely in Dubai, then I would study English Literature and then do a PGCE is secondary 11-18 English.
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1. You don't pay for QTS. You get this once you qualify and pass your PGCE or whatever teaching qualification you need to become a qualified teacher. It's basically the awarded to you upon completion of your postgrad qualification.

2. Never heard of a NQS. I've heard of NQT (Newly Qualified Teacher/Teaching Status).

3. CELTA is really for anyone who wishes to teach in Europe or Asia. Although Asia generally prefers a PGCE. But CELTA is really for anyone who wants to teach English as a foreign language - either in Britain or Europe. This is different from a PGCE. A PGCE means you'd be qualified to teach any subject, but be a specialist teacher in the subject you trained to teach. Whereas a CELTA will only allow you to teach English as a foreign language. So phonetics, alphabet, writing, reading and listening skills really. That's all.

4. I would recommend you ignore the CELTA and go straight for the PGCE.

5. If you want to teach in Dubai, you need to find out information on whatever website - Dubai's government website or you can get in touch with teaching.gov and they might be able to direct you more openly.

6. If you want to teach English abroad, namely in Dubai, then I would study English Literature and then do a PGCE is secondary 11-18 English.
Thank you so much for your effort, seriously. I really appreciate it.
So when I do a PGCE I will get a qualified teacher status, not a Newly QT. I always thought everyone starts of as a Newly Qualified Teacher and then with teaching experience gets a Qualified Teaching Status.
I’ve heard of people getting QTS through the school they’re already teaching/employed at. With that one I’m not sure it is actually a PGCE, but they still get a QTS at the end. I think I will likely do a PGCE straight after my degree

When I’m doing the PGCE (which is one year) will the
teaching I do there be counted as ‘experience’ as most employers require at least 2 years teaching experience.
*Looking online I’m sure I have to pay to do my PGCE after my degree which is what I meant sorry, not paying for the QTS itself.
Again, thank you these are the last concerns I really have
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Thank you so much for your effort, seriously. I really appreciate it.
So when I do a PGCE I will get a qualified teacher status, not a Newly QT. I always thought everyone starts of as a Newly Qualified Teacher and then with teaching experience gets a Qualified Teaching Status.
I’ve heard of people getting QTS through the school they’re already teaching/employed at. With that one I’m not sure it is actually a PGCE, but they still get a QTS at the end. I think I will likely do a PGCE straight after my degree

When I’m doing the PGCE (which is one year) will the
teaching I do there be counted as ‘experience’ as most employers require at least 2 years teaching experience.
*Looking online I’m sure I have to pay to do my PGCE after my degree which is what I meant sorry, not paying for the QTS itself.
Again, thank you these are the last concerns I really have
A PGCE includes QTS. Once you have gained the QTS, you then become a NQT. You will continue your teacher training as an NQT for a year. Then after you pass this induction year, you will become a qualified teacher.

In terms of what comes first, it just depends what route you take into teaching as a PGCE isn't the only way you can become a qualified teacher.

But no - everyone gets their QTS (this doesn't mean you're a teacher - it just means you've met the Teaching Standards' 2012 requirements to teach). Once you pass that, you with be labelled as an NQT - but will not be awarded this until you've successfully completed your NQT induction year. It's just pointless acronyms really.

I don't really know where you got the "2 years of experience from" as any employer could say that, but that's not the general case. To answer your question in a nutshell, yes; your PGCE is classed as experience because you'll be teaching.

Yes, your PGCE is a post-grad qualification. Which means, you have to pay for tuition.
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