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is it possible getting into a career in computer with an A level in inofrmation technology vocational level 3 and not an A level in maths
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Short answer - yes it's possible.

What kind of careers in computing do you find interesting?

Realistically speaking your chances at succeeding in a technical IT career depend heavily on your technical skills -- far less than whether you have a particular qualification or degree. The skills might include how well you're able to troubleshoot and fix faults affecting a network, or whether you're able to pick up a difficult software problem and create a solution using code and other software tools, whether you understand how to configure a computer system so that it's secure against known attacks and cyber-threats.

When it comes to the 'real world' of employment, A-Level maths is not a requirement for that sort of thing; remember that employers pay people who are capable of solving real problems, not for simply having a degree nor having studied a particular subject at college or university.

If you are interested in studying Computing or Computer Science at university to learn those skills, there are plenty of Computer Science degrees which you can get into without A-Level maths. Actually the only universities which do insist on A-Level maths are the "top 20" or so whose Computer Science degrees are a lot more mathematical and theoretical in nature. Other universities are more flexible about Maths.
This thread is worth reading: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=5007920

There's quite a lot to learn in terms of technical skills and knowing how to apply them to real problems. You can learn them on many different kinds of Computing or Computer Science degrees or other courses. You can even spend that same amount of time using books and online courses as well as other internet materials to learn by yourself and to practice.

Lastly, there may be apprenticeship options available - However, if you're lacking A-Level maths, you will probably need to put some effort into self-teaching a number of technical skills (e.g. programming, databases, networking, etc.) before you'd be able to compete against other people applying for those apprenticeships. There's a lot of competition for those placements, so companies hiring apprentices will choose the best people who apply.


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Short answer - yes it's possible.

What kind of careers in computing do you find interesting?

Realistically speaking your chances at succeeding in a technical IT career depend heavily on your technical skills -- far less than whether you have a particular qualification or degree. The skills might include how well you're able to troubleshoot and fix faults affecting a network, or whether you're able to pick up a difficult software problem and create a solution using code and other software tools, whether you understand how to configure a computer system so that it's secure against known attacks and cyber-threats.

When it comes to the 'real world' of employment, A-Level maths is not a requirement for that sort of thing; remember that employers pay people who are capable of solving real problems, not for simply having a degree nor having studied a particular subject at college or university.

If you are interested in studying Computing or Computer Science at university to learn those skills, there are plenty of Computer Science degrees which you can get into without A-Level maths. Actually the only universities which do insist on A-Level maths are the "top 20" or so whose Computer Science degrees are a lot more mathematical and theoretical in nature. Other universities are more flexible about Maths.
This thread is worth reading: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=5007920

There's quite a lot to learn in terms of technical skills and knowing how to apply them to real problems. You can learn them on many different kinds of Computing or Computer Science degrees or other courses. You can even spend that same amount of time using books and online courses as well as other internet materials to learn by yourself and to practice.

Lastly, there may be apprenticeship options available - However, if you're lacking A-Level maths, you will probably need to put some effort into self-teaching a number of technical skills (e.g. programming, databases, networking, etc.) before you'd be able to compete against other people applying for those apprenticeships. There's a lot of competition for those placements, so companies hiring apprentices will choose the best people who apply.


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im interested in like cyber secuirty but not 100% sure and open do things. but will me doing A vocational level 3 in information technology hinder my chances
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Not an Entertainment thread, but I've been reliably informed that this should be in Computer Science and ICT. :giggle:
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Not an Entertainment thread, but I've been reliably informed that this should be in Computer Science and ICT. :giggle:
just for my satisfaction could you look at this course and tell me if it will affect anything and could i go into cyber security?


https://farnborough.ac.uk/course/voc...tiontechnology
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just for my satisfaction could you look at this course and tell me if it will affect anything and could i go into cyber security?


https://farnborough.ac.uk/course/voc...tiontechnology
I'm really the wrong person to ask, I'm afraid. Wouldn't have a clue.
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[QUOTE=winterscoming;79616242]Short answer - yes it's possible.

What kind of careers in computing do you find interesting?

Realistically speaking your chances at succeeding in a technical IT career depend heavily on your technical skills -- far less than whether you have a particular qualification or degree. The skills might include how well you're able to troubleshoot and fix faults affecting a network, or whether you're able to pick up a difficult software problem and create a solution using code and other software tools, whether you understand how to configure a computer system so that it's secure against known attacks and cyber-threats.

When it comes to the 'real world' of employment, A-Level maths is not a requirement for that sort of thing; remember that employers pay people who are capable of solving real problems, not for simply having a degree nor having studied a particular subject at college or university.

If you are interested in studying Computing or Computer Science at university to learn those skills, there are plenty of Computer Science degrees which you can get into without A-Level maths. Actually the only universities which do insist on A-Level maths are the "top 20" or so whose Computer Science degrees are a lot more mathematical and theoretical in nature. Other universities are more flexible about Maths.
This thread is worth reading: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=5007920

There's quite a lot to learn in terms of technical skills and knowing how to apply them to real problems. You can learn them on many different kinds of Computing or Computer Science degrees or other courses. You can even spend that same amount of time using books and online courses as well as other internet materials to learn by yourself and to practice.

Lastly, there may be apprenticeship options available - However, if you're lacking A-Level maths, you will probably need to put some effort into self-teaching a number of technical skills (e.g. programming, databases, networking, etc.) before you'd be able to compete against other people applying for those apprenticeships. There's a lot of competition for those placements, so companies hiring apprentices will choose the best people who apply.

could you look at this course and tell me would this affect. uni chances

https://farnborough.ac.uk/course/voc...tiontechnology
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is it possible getting into a career in computer with an A level in inofrmation technology vocational level 3 and not an A level in maths
t will be possible to get onto some form of computer science course without maths, but realistically speaking it will generally be lower ranked unis so it depends if that bothers you. It may be what a foundation route is more appropriate given the qualifications you're gonna be taking. That course isn't exactly the most ideal for computing given the unit content though
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t will be possible to get onto some form of computer science course without maths, but realistically speaking it will generally be lower ranked unis so it depends if that bothers you. It may be what a foundation route is more appropriate given the qualifications you're gonna be taking. That course isn't exactly the most ideal for computing given the unit content though
im not to bothered if honest, and i wouldnt mind doing a foundation route if it helps me then im down, i was looking at this thread do you mind having a look

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=5007920
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im not to bothered if honest, and i wouldnt mind doing a foundation route if it helps me then im down, i was looking at this thread do you mind having a look

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=5007920
That thread looks great, what about it did you want me to look at?
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t will be possible to get onto some form of computer science course without maths, but realistically speaking it will generally be lower ranked unis so it depends if that bothers you. It may be what a foundation route is more appropriate given the qualifications you're gonna be taking. That course isn't exactly the most ideal for computing given the unit content though
Not really true, there are just some unis that require A level Maths (the vast minority). You can still to to high ranking unis without Maths and with a BTEC.

For example (all in the top 30):

Lancaster, Leeds, Surrey, Nottingham, UEA, Newcastle, Royal Holloway, Sussex, UCL (for IMB) and Manchester (for ITMB).
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Not really true, there are just some unis that require A level Maths (the vast minority). You can still to to high ranking unis without Maths and with a BTEC.

For example (all in the top 30):

Lancaster, Leeds, Surrey, Nottingham, UEA, Newcastle, Royal Holloway, Sussex, UCL (for IMB) and Manchester (for ITMB).
Can you go to surrey university without math A level
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Can you go to surrey university without math A level
Not for Computer Science, but you can for Computing & IT and the modules are almost identical, see below:

CIT - https://www.surrey.ac.uk/undergradua...ion-technology

CS - https://www.surrey.ac.uk/undergraduate/computer-science
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Not for Computer Science, but you can for Computing & IT and the modules are almost identical, see below:

CIT - https://www.surrey.ac.uk/undergradua...ion-technology

CS - https://www.surrey.ac.uk/undergraduate/computer-science
woudl i still be able to get the same jobs, could i go into cyber security with a btec information technology level 3 and no math A level
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woudl i still be able to get the same jobs, could i go into cyber security with a btec information technology level 3 and no math A level
Yes, of course you would.

I didn't do A level Maths and I also did the IT BTEC, I have just finished my Masters in CS and for a while was seriously considering going into Cyber security, before taking a grad scheme doing more Software engineering work. But it's perfectly possible to go into Cyber Security yes.

Surrey is also a GCHQ/NCSC centre or excellence for Cyber Security and their MSc in Information Security is accredited by GCHQ if you were to do an extra year.

Also, consider looking at Royal Holloway for BSc Computer Science (Information Security) and Warwick (BSc Cyber Security). They are the only 2 bachelors degrees that have the GCHQ accreditation and neither of them require A level Maths, still need a STEM subject though. See below:

Warwick - https://warwick.ac.uk/study/undergra...cybersecurity/

RHUL - https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/stud...tion-security/
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