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Original post by JWW9999
That is true as the "General" Engineering applicant numbers have risen since 2016 whch should counter the decline of Chemical Engineering Applicants.

Surely today Chemical Engineering covers a lot more industries in addition to the Oil and Gas industry?


It sure does. But many people don't see beyond that.

Also, it is possible to transfer to ChemEmg even if you go in via Engineering anyway, without specifying the ChemEng stream at the outset. Similarly via NatSci.
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Reply 101
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/applicants_who_applied_in_at_lea#incoming-983940

Thought this was quite interesting... but it's just me spending the last of my days where I can still dream about Cambridge before offer day looking at stats :'(

At least I don't feel like I've wasted my time doing a gap year...
Original post by xiaochen
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/applicants_who_applied_in_at_lea#incoming-983940

Thought this was quite interesting... but it's just me spending the last of my days where I can still dream about Cambridge before offer day looking at stats :'(

At least I don't feel like I've wasted my time doing a gap year...


LOL. :smile:

What's the summary of the data?
Reply 103
Original post by Doonesbury
LOL. :smile:

What's the summary of the data?

Basically a massive table showing people who applied (more than once) in various rounds and whether they got an offer or not.
I opened the table up in excel and filtered by engineering... surprisingly it showed that quite a few people applied one year, got an offer, evidently didn't go to Cambridge, applied the next year and got an offer again.
Also shows people who got an offer the first time but for some reason reapplied and didn't get an offer the second time...
Also shows people who applied both times and were rejected twice :')
I didn't bother to count how many of each there were.
Reply 104
Original post by Doonesbury
LOL. :smile:

What's the summary of the data?

Wait........... doesn't this mean that Cambridge does actually retain past data about applicants? So it wasn't true that I have heard somewhere that past applicant data is destroyed or something and they wouldn't know if you've reapplied??
Original post by xiaochen
Wait........... doesn't this mean that Cambridge does actually retain past data about applicants? So it wasn't true that I have heard somewhere that past applicant data is destroyed or something and they wouldn't know if you've reapplied??


I think now that GDPR is a thing means that they can’t hold onto data from previous admissions anyway.
Original post by xiaochen
Basically a massive table showing people who applied (more than once) in various rounds and whether they got an offer or not.
I opened the table up in excel and filtered by engineering... surprisingly it showed that quite a few people applied one year, got an offer, evidently didn't go to Cambridge, applied the next year and got an offer again.
Also shows people who got an offer the first time but for some reason reapplied and didn't get an offer the second time...
Also shows people who applied both times and were rejected twice :':wink:
I didn't bother to count how many of each there were.


Just had a play with it, also looking at Engineering:
In 2015, 5 got an Offer and reapplied in 2016, only 1 got another offer in 2016.
Meanwhile in 2016 9 got an Offer but reapplied in 2017, 6 got another offer in 2017.
So there's quite big variations per year.

And looking at Engineers who applied in 2015 AND 2016 (45), only 9 got an offer in 2016. That's a 20% success rate, which isn't much better than the overall offer rate for Engineering that year (18%).

While for 2016 and 2017 59 reapplied and 22 got offers, a much better success rate (37%). It's curious there's such wide variations... :iiam:
Original post by xiaochen
Wait........... doesn't this mean that Cambridge does actually retain past data about applicants? So it wasn't true that I have heard somewhere that past applicant data is destroyed or something and they wouldn't know if you've reapplied??


Original post by JWW9999
I think now that GDPR is a thing means that they can’t hold onto data from previous admissions anyway.


Stats aren't subject to GDPR in the same way. The data is anonymised.

Individual application files are destroyed, but the aggregated datasets aren't.
Original post by xiaochen
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/applicants_who_applied_in_at_lea#incoming-983940

Thought this was quite interesting... but it's just me spending the last of my days where I can still dream about Cambridge before offer day looking at stats :'(

At least I don't feel like I've wasted my time doing a gap year...


lol from looking through the list (I'm on a trip so can't really use Excel) it seems like basically almost all CompSci reapplicants get rejected again

more evidence that I'll embarrassingly get a second rejection in a couple of days :biggrin:
Original post by CompSciCat
lol from looking through the list (I'm on a trip so can't really use Excel) it seems like basically almost all CompSci reapplicants get rejected again

more evidence that I'll embarrassingly get a second rejection in a couple of days :biggrin:


18 Reapplicants in 2016 got 4 offers = 22% (vs 17% of all 2016 CS applicants)
20 Reapplicants in 2017 got 3 offers = 15% (vs 15% of all 2017 CS applicants)

So a marginal(ish) benefit :wink: - aka not a disadvantage...
@CompSciCat I did notice one person (row 337) applied in 2015, got a offer. Reapplied in 2016, got another offer. Reapplied in 2017.... got rejected.

:getmecoat:
Reply 111
Original post by Doonesbury
Stats aren't subject to GDPR in the same way. The data is anonymised.

Individual application files are destroyed, but the aggregated datasets aren't.


Interesting... What does GDPR mean?

And definitely weird that probability of success fluctuates so much. But what I always find unsettling every time is that there defo isn't a 100% success rate for reapplicants (obviously)
Reply 112
Original post by Doonesbury
@CompSciCat I did notice one person (row 337) applied in 2015, got a offer. Reapplied in 2016, got another offer. Reapplied in 2017.... got rejected.

:getmecoat:


Damnn 😂😂why do people do that to themselves 🤣
Original post by xiaochen
Interesting... What does GDPR mean?

And definitely weird that probability of success fluctuates so much. But what I always find unsettling every time is that there defo isn't a 100% success rate for reapplicants (obviously)


General Data Protection Regulations.

The new EU data requirements.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation


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Reply 114
Original post by Doonesbury
Just had a play with it, also looking at Engineering:
In 2015, 5 got an Offer and reapplied in 2016, only 1 got another offer in 2016.
Meanwhile in 2016 9 got an Offer but reapplied in 2017, 6 got another offer in 2017.
So there's quite big variations per year.

And looking at Engineers who applied in 2015 AND 2016 (45), only 9 got an offer in 2016. That's a 20% success rate, which isn't much better than the overall offer rate for Engineering that year (18%).

While for 2016 and 2017 59 reapplied and 22 got offers, a much better success rate (37%). It's curious there's such wide variations... :iiam:


Prsom 😁
Original post by Doonesbury
18 Reapplicants in 2016 got 4 offers = 22% (vs 17% of all 2016 CS applicants)
20 Reapplicants in 2017 got 3 offers = 15% (vs 15% of all 2017 CS applicants)

So a marginal(ish) benefit :wink: - aka not a disadvantage...


PRSOM

(though 15% isn't the most promising number :wink:)

Also interesting to see concrete numbers of how many reapply
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Original post by Doonesbury
And looking at Engineers who applied in 2015 AND 2016 (45), only 9 got an offer in 2016. That's a 20% success rate, which isn't much better than the overall offer rate for Engineering that year (18%).

While for 2016 and 2017 59 reapplied and 22 got offers, a much better success rate (37%). It's curious there's such wide variations... :iiam:

My guess is that A-level reform had an impact, 3 or 4 A*s already achieved with a low-ish average (perhaps 91% or so) looks more impressive when you aren't competing with a load of people who have 96+% AS UMS averages.
Reply 117
Original post by Forecast
My guess is that A-level reform had an impact, 3 or 4 A*s already achieved with a low-ish average (perhaps 91% or so) looks more impressive when you aren't competing with a load of people who have 96+% AS UMS averages.

Are you saying those with linear a levels have an advantage? - I guess it can go both ways, if you got an A* linear, Cambridge wouldn't know if it was a low or high A* since they don't request for raw marks (so it helps you a bit if you actually only scraped an A*), but if you had say 96%+ ums A* then you're more at an advantage as they know you got a high A* and that's more impressive if you get me :'D
But for maths (important for engineering), it was still modular until last year. And you know how terribly picky they are about maths UMS... I'm reapplying now with 4 modular A levels and 2 linear A levels (and you could say that at least I'm happy my physics is linear) so I'm guessing a level reform may not have been the main reason for 2017...
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Original post by Forecast
My guess is that A-level reform had an impact, 3 or 4 A*s already achieved with a low-ish average (perhaps 91% or so) looks more impressive when you aren't competing with a load of people who have 96+% AS UMS averages.


Original post by xiaochen
Are you saying those with linear a levels have an advantage? - I guess it can go both ways, if you got an A* linear, Cambridge wouldn't know if it was a low or high A* since they don't request for raw marks (so it helps you a bit if you actually only scraped an A*), but if you had say 96%+ ums A* then you're more at an advantage as they know you got a high A* and that's more impressive if you get me :'D
But for maths (important for engineering), it was still modular until last year. And you know how terribly picky they are about maths UMS... I'm reapplying now with 4 modular A levels and 2 linear A levels (and you could say that at least I'm happy my physics is linear) so I'm guessing a level reform may not have been the main reason for 2017...


And they'd still have CSAT and the interview.
Original post by xiaochen
Are you saying those with linear a levels have an advantage?


No, I'm saying that post A-level applicants in 2017 probably had a slightly greater edge than post A-level applicants in 2016 and previous years.

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