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ah so they want to also see you take your clothes off? that is the bigger issue
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Why is this thread still going? The conclusion is: It is illegal under UK law.
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Pay someone older a fiver to come into your room with a clipboard and act as an inspector, and have them say cameras aren't allowed and you'll have to remove it there and then.
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Kinda weird that tbh.
What is she going to see you do? Wake up, get dressed leave the room for however long, come back and go to sleep. You could easily choose to study in libraries if the intention is monitor you studying or something. So kinda pointless on her behalf.


Anyway it's already been established to be illegal
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If this is serious, then I think you should stay in the UK once you graduate. Living near her must be hell
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(Original post by EleventhDoctor)
I'm an international student, and I have very strict parents.

This October I'll start an undergraduate course in London, and my mother wants to put a camera in my room at halls, and I certainly do not like this idea.

Could anyone give me any proofs whether it is illegal or not, so I could know if I can comehow persuade my mother not to do this.

I will live in Southside halls, if that matters.
Speak to the people who run the halls. They'll likely say that it's not allowed, as that would be surveillance of private quarters (on a property that isn't yours) and could be used for illicit purposes (like making sex tapes without permission). Get them to put that in writing for your mother, or else to point out where it might already be in writing.
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"It is illegal to set up a hidden camera in any property or room where the individual would expect to have privacy"
"It is also illegal to hide a spy camera in someone else's home."
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Why is this thread still going? The conclusion is: It is illegal under UK law.
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Anyway it's already been established to be illegal
While I don't disagree with you that it's bad, if the OP knows about it then it's not hidden and is probably not covered by that rule.
And the argument is that it wouldn't be a spy camera, it's a webcam in a similar vein to baby monitors, which clearly aren't illegal.
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I understand that she may have some worries with you being so far away from home and this might be something she is doing inorder to feel assured that you are safe, but could you not tell her that you would FaceTime every night to let her know you are safe and well?
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I’d be more inclined to agree, then find a way to feed a false image that’s been recorded over a ‘normal’ 24hr period.
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(Original post by EleventhDoctor)
I'm an international student, and I have very strict parents.

This October I'll start an undergraduate course in London, and my mother wants to put a camera in my room at halls, and I certainly do not like this idea.

Could anyone give me any proofs whether it is illegal or not, so I could know if I can comehow persuade my mother not to do this.

I will live in Southside halls, if that matters.
Seriously, this is parenting on a whole new level and totally unworthy of any parent. This is the beginning of your new life. Now is the time to come into your own.
Tell her it isn’t allowed.
Tell the university you don’t want it.
If she does do it, swap rooms with someone else once you’ve settled in.
Never mind about about the legalities - just say a big fat No!
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Hey I feel that your mum shouldn’t do that. I get the fact that perhaps she is worry about you as you mentioned you are under 18. But to be honest, this is a matter of trust. I mean.... you are growing up, learning to be independent etc. and if she puts a camera in your room, it’s gonna help. Maybe you could talk to her nicely, and explain to her that she needs to trust you.
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(Original post by Drewski)
While I don't disagree with you that it's bad, if the OP knows about it then it's not hidden and is probably not covered by that rule.
And the argument is that it wouldn't be a spy camera, it's a webcam in a similar vein to baby monitors, which clearly aren't illegal.
The illegality probably comes from the child pornography aspect...
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As an international student, I get where you're coming from. I came at uni at 17 as well so I get why your mom would be a tad scared. But the camera thing is a big no; tell her it's not allowed in Uni Halls and that other people in your flat would not be comfortable being "watched"; and that even if they didn't know about this hidden camera, they will at some point and they can bring about legal complaints against yourself. Just assure your mom that you'll text her every day once u wake up and before u go to sleep. At some point, u have to realize that if she was THAT strict then she wouldn't have sent u to the UK as an underage girl/boy to live alone in Uni halls. You just have to reason with her and assure her you're there for an education and that this is the time that u need to build independence.
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(Original post by EleventhDoctor)
I'm an international student, and I have very strict parents.

This October I'll start an undergraduate course in London, and my mother wants to put a camera in my room at halls, and I certainly do not like this idea.

Could anyone give me any proofs whether it is illegal or not, so I could know if I can comehow persuade my mother not to do this.

I will live in Southside halls, if that matters.
Students are not allowed to put anything on university property. You could get removed from the Hall for breaching your room contract.
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It's likely a breach of the lease agreement for the room and the IT regulations for the university network

Talk to your university, get them to say this in writing somewhere, show this to your mum.
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(Original post by Drewski)
While I don't disagree with you that it's bad, if the OP knows about it then it's not hidden and is probably not covered by that rule.
And the argument is that it wouldn't be a spy camera, it's a webcam in a similar vein to baby monitors, which clearly aren't illegal.
Voluntary, yes, but they'd inevitably be naked on camera and they're under 18, so it would class as child pornography which is obviously illegal regardless of consent.
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The illegality probably comes from the child pornography aspect...
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Voluntary, yes, but they'd inevitably be naked on camera and they're under 18, so it would class as child pornography which is obviously illegal regardless of consent.
That's fine. And I'd agree there.

Just if you're going to say something's illegal, quote the right law
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Hey I feel that your mum shouldn’t do that. I get the fact that perhaps she is worry about you as you mentioned you are under 18. But to be honest, this is a matter of trust. I mean.... you are growing up, learning to be independent etc. and if she puts a camera in your room, it’s gonna help. Maybe you could talk to her nicely, and explain to her that she needs to trust you.
She has no authority to put a camera in his room.
How is that going to help?
How is he going to look to his fellow students?
He just has to say No, and that will show her that he needs his independence.
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