GCHQ/CyberFirst Degree Apprenticeship in cyber security - applications now open Watch

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Hi, Was just wondering whether you can still apply for this with only an interest to learn rather than any actual knowledge or background in IT or coding Thanks!😊
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Hi, Was just wondering whether you can still apply for this with only an interest to learn rather than any actual knowledge or background in IT or coding Thanks!😊
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These are the requirements listed on their site:

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We’re looking for motivated, technically orientated individuals from all backgrounds who want to get ahead by building on the things that makes them unique.

To join this three-year Degree Level Apprenticeship scheme starting in September 2018, you have (or are expecting to have by September 2018), 3 A-Levels in any subjects at grade C or above (or equivalent). You also have a minimum of 2 IGCSEs/GCSEs in STEM subjects, at grade 6/B or above, one of which is in maths.


A keen interest in programming, computing and technology is essential. Although previous experience in coding would be advantageous, it’s not required as you’ll have the opportunity to develop these skills on the apprenticeship.

It sounds to me that you need a little bit of a background in IT, coding is great to have too but not required at all.

Obviously I'm not an NCSC/GCHQ employee so don't take my word for it!
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How do I use my interest in doing a degree in Economics, to show how I can transfer my skills into Cyber Security?
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(Original post by ColetteStone101)
Hi, Was just wondering whether you can still apply for this with only an interest to learn rather than any actual knowledge or background in IT or coding Thanks!😊

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Hi ColetteStone101,

These are the requirements listed on their site:

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We’re looking for motivated, technically orientated individuals from all backgrounds who want to get ahead by building on the things that makes them unique.

To join this three-year Degree Level Apprenticeship scheme starting in September 2018, you have (or are expecting to have by September 2018), 3 A-Levels in any subjects at grade C or above (or equivalent). You also have a minimum of 2 IGCSEs/GCSEs in STEM subjects, at grade 6/B or above, one of which is in maths.

A keen interest in programming, computing and technology is essential. Although previous experience in coding would be advantageous, it’s not required as you’ll have the opportunity to develop these skills on the apprenticeship.



It sounds to me that you need a little bit of a background in IT, coding is great to have too but not required at all.

Obviously I'm not an NCSC/GCHQ employee so don't take my word for it!

Hi ColetteStone101 - dexybo has given a pretty good answer there. We don't expect people who are applying for an apprenticeship to have encyclopaedic knowledge of the subject, but we do expect them to have an aptitude and keenness that will allow them to pick up the subject quickly. This is the sort of thing tested at the assessment centres and by the online labs, not the extent of your knowledge per se.

Hope this helps
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Hi The National Cyber Security Centre - are you able to share any details of the university involved at this point?
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After seeing some discussion of this over the last few weeks and fielding some private messages, readers may be interested to know that applications are now open for our degree apprenticeship scheme, to begin in September 2019.

Based in Cheltenham, London, Bude or Scarborough, you’ll have a real role at GCHQ, learning and working amid some of the world’s most cutting-edge security technologies. All with a starting salary of £18k+.

Alongside your work, you’ll spend three years studying towards a recognised degree in Cyber Security, cementing the work you’re doing from day-to-day.

If you successfully complete your Degree Apprenticeship, and depending on our business needs, there’s a good chance we’ll offer you full-time employment with GCHQ or the NCSC.

You can find out more on our website, and our jobs page, where you can also apply online - the closing date is Friday 2nd November.
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I'm very intersted in applying for this apprenticeship next year, however i have been researching the apprentiship and on two different sites, i saw two different entry requirements, is there any way for you to confirm the entry requirements for the apprenticeship starting september 2020?
Thank you.
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Hello,
I'm very intersted in applying for this apprenticeship next year, however i have been researching the apprentiship and on two different sites, i saw two different entry requirements, is there any way for you to confirm the entry requirements for the apprenticeship starting september 2020?
Thank you.
Hello,

It's great to hear that you're interested in applying next year, and sorry to hear you’ve come across some confusing information. We do tweak our entry requirements from year to year for a variety of reasons, and it's possible that you came across a site containing out of date information.

The recommended source of up-to-date information is our official jobs page - you'll see on there that the entry requirements for the last round were as follows:

  • Be a UK National
  • Have (or be expecting to have by September 2019), 3 ‘A’ Levels in any subject at grade C or above (or equivalent)
  • Also have a IGCSE/GCSE Maths at grade of B or 6 or above (or equivalent)

Whilst we'll be carrying out our usual review before launching this year’s campaign, any changes we make are likely to be minor, and so the above requirements will provide a good guide. We'll update the web page when the time comes, and make sure we publicise the campaign’s launch.

We hope this helps but do get in touch if you have any other questions
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Hi, I am interested in applying to this Apprenticeship, however I would firstly like to know what universities you can attend while doing this course.
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Hi, I am interested in applying to this Apprenticeship, however I would firstly like to know what universities you can attend while doing this course.
Hi there - if you have a place on the CyberFirst Degree Apprenticeship then the learning parts are delivered by one particular university that we partner with; we don't divulge the name of this university publicly, but it is a leading UK university, which is very strong in teaching cyber security.

The nature of a degree apprenticeship means that you don't get to choose universities - each employer that offers an apprenticeship has chosen to work with a particular university in order to deliver the education parts of the apprenticeship, and will have a contract in place with that university.

We hope this answers your question, but are happy to answer any other questions you may have.
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the learning parts are delivered by one particular university that we partner with; we don't divulge the name of this university publicly, but it is a leading UK university, which is very strong in teaching cyber security.
Are you able to clarify whether that's one university which handles all 4 locations mentioned in the original post, as those locations are quite geographically dispersed. Or if it's one uni per location, I presume they're reasonably "local" universities and there isn't an expectation to commute hours for the university portion of the apprenticeship? Or perhaps the degree element is delivered via distance learning instead?
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the learning parts are delivered by one particular university that we partner with; we don't divulge the name of this university publicly, but it is a leading UK university, which is very strong in teaching cyber security.
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Are you able to clarify whether that's one university which handles all 4 locations mentioned in the original post, as those locations are quite geographically dispersed. Or if it's one uni per location, I presume they're reasonably "local" universities and there isn't an expectation to commute hours for the university portion of the apprenticeship? Or perhaps the degree element is delivered via distance learning instead?
Good question, and sorry for not making that clearer. The university parts of the apprenticeship are delivered in Cheltenham, where we have our HQ and a purpose-built training centre, where the teaching staff are based. Apprentices may then be based at each of the four locations for their work placements, depending on their preferences and business requirements (as not of all our technology areas are based in Cheltenham).
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Good question, and sorry for not making that clearer. The university parts of the apprenticeship are delivered in Cheltenham, where we have our HQ and a purpose-built training centre, where the teaching staff are based. Apprentices may then be based at each of the four locations for their work placements, depending on their preferences and business requirements (as not of all our technology areas are based in Cheltenham).
Thanks for the reply. Follow up question then, a lot of apprenticeships will do something like a 4:1 system, where 4 days a week are spent at work and 1 day is spent on day release at college or uni for the "educational qualification" part. I'm guessing there isn't an expectation for apprentices based in Scarborough to be travelling down once a week for their university portion? Even Bude and London are fairly far removed from Cheltenham. I'm probably still misunderstanding something so could you clarify what sort of travel may be involved, especially for the apprentices not based in Cheltenham? I feel like understanding how mobile an apprentice is expected to be is important before deciding if this is the right option for them I certainly wouldn't want to be making the Scarborough to Cheltenham journey on a regular basis.
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Good question, and sorry for not making that clearer. The university parts of the apprenticeship are delivered in Cheltenham, where we have our HQ and a purpose-built training centre, where the teaching staff are based. Apprentices may then be based at each of the four locations for their work placements, depending on their preferences and business requirements (as not of all our technology areas are based in Cheltenham).
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Thanks for the reply. Follow up question then, a lot of apprenticeships will do something like a 4:1 system, where 4 days a week are spent at work and 1 day is spent on day release at college or uni for the "educational qualification" part. I'm guessing there isn't an expectation for apprentices based in Scarborough to be travelling down once a week for their university portion? Even Bude and London are fairly far removed from Cheltenham. I'm probably still misunderstanding something so could you clarify what sort of travel may be involved, especially for the apprentices not based in Cheltenham? I feel like understanding how mobile an apprentice is expected to be is important before deciding if this is the right option for them I certainly wouldn't want to be making the Scarborough to Cheltenham journey on a regular basis.
You're right, there isn't an expectation for apprentices to travel long distances every week. Instead, we deliver our scheme on a 'block' basis, whereby the apprentices spend several months at a time either engaged in learning or on their placements. The majority of the first year is spent on learning, with block placements following in later years. This allows the apprentices to really focus on both their learning and the work they do during their placements, and also helps to build their community.

We generally find that the apprentices who opt for placements in non-Cheltenham locations do so either because they are particularly interested in the work that is carried out there, and/or wish to build their career there following the apprenticeship.
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Was wondering wether there is any obligation to stay at GCHQ once the 3 years of the apprenticeship are over?
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Probably, yes. You'd have to be an utter idiot to not, anyway, if just to have 5-8 years of GCHQ work for your CV.
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Sorry for the confusion, of course, GCHQ is an amazing opportunity, but I was looking at doing a masters after graduating, would this still be possible if I went down this degree apprenticeship route?
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Probably, yes. You'd have to be an utter idiot to not, anyway, if just to have 5-8 years of GCHQ work for your CV.
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Sorry for the confusion, of course, GCHQ is an amazing opportunity, but I was looking at doing a masters after graduating, would this still be possible if I went down this degree apprenticeship route?
As with all businesses, if there is a need for you to have an master’s they’ll, at the very least, partially fund it and make accommodations. However, if you want to do a Bachelors and then a masters directly after uni is probably your best bet, perhaps with the GCHQ bursary.
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Sorry for the confusion, of course, GCHQ is an amazing opportunity, but I was looking at doing a masters after graduating, would this still be possible if I went down this degree apprenticeship route?
The Job Description on the website clearly says they will only give you employment at GCHQ if you meet business needs and if you satisfy criteria. Nowhere does it say you need to stay. I assume there's nothing stopping you from doing a one year or part-time master's right after you finish the scheme - but if you want the master's fully funded you tend to need to do it part-time in a field relevant to advancing your career for that organisation.
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What is the arrangements for accommodation during the apprenticeship. Does GCHQ have a list of “trusted” accommodation providers for each of the locations? Or is the student expected to find their own accommodation. I was going to drive from my home to the Harrogate location but it would be over 300 miles round trip down to Cheltenham?!
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What is the arrangements for accommodation during the apprenticeship. Does GCHQ have a list of “trusted” accommodation providers for each of the locations? Or is the student expected to find their own accommodation. I was going to drive from my home to the Harrogate location but it would be over 300 miles round trip down to Cheltenham?!
You’re paid more than enough that you can easily house share with other apprentices.
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