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I think there comes a point when you'd be better off doing an apprenticeship rather than a degree in fashion from an ex-poly/London Met. These 'Mickey-mouse' degrees really hold no worth in the workplace, and purely support the commercialisation of education in the UK. I really think university should be reserved for those with the academic potential, instead of a workforce full of useless degrees and thousands in debt. Employers can easily differentiate between graduates of different universities, and these low-ranked 'institutions' pretty much prey on the naivety of those students clutching 3 Cs on results day, who search for somewhere to accumulate thousands in debt in an attempt to 'fit in'. The government needs to reflect on its approach to further education here.
What are your thoughts?

To the people liking that n̶u̶t̶t̶e̶r̶'̶s̶ person's post below, I have never posted about getting 'BBB' in my A levels. I got AAA, which my thread history proves since the day I received my results (16th August). I have also never posted about law firms, which this guy has some weird obsession about:facepalm::laugh: JohanGRK
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>BBB should be the minimum
>What law firms will take me on with BBB?

Next time, try finding a more principled cut-off that doesn't rely on what you got at A-level.
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>BBB should be the minimum
>What law firms will take me on with BBB?

Next time, try finding a more principled cut-off that doesn't rely on what you got at A-level.
? I'm talking about university entry requirements, not law firms. I have also never mentioned getting BBB at A level, I got AAA.
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? I'm talking about university entry requirements, not law firms
Once again, the point flew over your head.
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imo uni should only be a place to train highly skilled workers who benefit society i.e doctors, engineers, scientists
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Once again, the point flew over your head.
Which point? You aren't making sense.
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I saw 'top 40' and thought we would be discussing the death of pop music.

Ne'ermind.
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imo uni should only be a place to train highly skilled workers who benefit society i.e doctors, engineers, scientists
I agree although I would include social sciences such as economics and politics in there, languages too, but only at the top unis.
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Which point? You aren't making sense.
You get BBB. You conveniently proceed to argue that anyone with less than BBB shouldn't be going to uni. That's an arbitrary decision that's motivated by a desire to keep you within the category of people who 'deserve to go to university'.
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I saw 'top 40' and thought we would be discussing the death of pop music.

Ne'ermind.
Lol, sorry
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Naivety?

Where's the diacritics, man? Who's gonna take you seriously as a non -BBBer if you can't even do German.
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(Original post by Zaporizhia)
I think there comes a point when you'd be better off doing an apprenticeship rather than a degree in fashion from an ex-poly/London Met. These 'Mickey-mouse' degrees really hold no worth in the workplace, and purely support the commercialisation of education in the UK. I really think university should be reserved for those with the academic potential, instead of a workforce full of useless degrees and thousands in debt. Employers can easily differentiate between graduates of different universities, and these low-ranked 'institutions' pretty much prey on the naivety of those students clutching 3 Cs on results day, who search for somewhere to accumulate thousands in debt in an attempt to 'fit in'. The government needs to reflect on its approach to further education here.
What are your thoughts?
Aside from 'thousands in debt', have you any evidence at all for these opinions? What is your experience in graduate employment that gives these statements credibility?
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Naivety?

Where's the diacritics, man? Who's gonna take you seriously as a non -BBBer if you can't even do German.
Well, I'm writing in English, and naive comes from French
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Hahaha
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(Original post by JohanGRK)
You get BBB. You conveniently proceed to argue that anyone with less than BBB shouldn't be going to uni. That's an arbitrary decision that's motivated by a desire to keep you within the category of people who 'deserve to go to university'.
I got AAA at A level. No offence, you seem to be slightly...aggressive. Nowhere in this post have I mentioned getting BBB
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you sound like the kind of person who quotes guardian rankings
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You've identified a big problem but your solution seems both extreme and insanely hard to implement at this point.
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you sound like the kind of person who quotes guardian rankings
No way, they're bs
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(Original post by Zaporizhia)
I think there comes a point when you'd be better off doing an apprenticeship rather than a degree in fashion from an ex-poly/London Met. These 'Mickey-mouse' degrees really hold no worth in the workplace, and purely support the commercialisation of education in the UK. I really think university should be reserved for those with the academic potential, instead of a workforce full of useless degrees and thousands in debt. Employers can easily differentiate between graduates of different universities, and these low-ranked 'institutions' pretty much prey on the naivety of those students clutching 3 Cs on results day, who search for somewhere to accumulate thousands in debt in an attempt to 'fit in'. The government needs to reflect on its approach to further education here.
What are your thoughts?
Are you actually motivated by the altruistic notion of preventing people from getting into debt to obtain said qualifications that aren't, according to you, worth much, or are you more interested in trying to whittle down the competition for jobs you are interested in upon graduation?
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You've identified a big problem but your solution seems both extreme and insanely hard to implement at this point.
Maybe, but it's probably the right one. More and more new unis with low entry requirements have popped up all over the place since student fees were raised
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