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It doesn't matter. The world is going to be run by global corporations soon. Nothing we can do about it.
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I’m definitely right wing (bich u thot)
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I do think they are somewhat meaningless terms now, but if pushed i'm on the side of people rather than things.
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(Original post by Davij038)
I’m economically left wing, but you’re wrong too.

ie do you use products made from sweatshops like everyone else?

Thst skdo refutes your point.

to do some degree capitalism and socialism are unavoidable
That's entirely different to getting free healthcare from everybody's taxes when you don't believe in it. Capitalism is what we run off, socialism is not. Basically capitalism > socialism massively. You ever heard of private health care? Using socialism directly contradicts her view that people should make their own way in life LOL. Nothing you've said directly contradicts anything I've said. You could basically only call me a 'champagne socialist' by your logic, and even that is weak. And how the f*ck do people get paid if nobody buys their sh*t exactly? That's directly hurting their income, since we live in a capitalist state.

However if she uses the NHS she's crippling the system even more than it already is and burdening the taxpayer. LOGIC.

Apples and oranges mate. As you're left wing, I'm quite disappointed in how much you missed the mark.
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(Original post by Economics_Master)
I believe in personal responsibility, self-improvement, minimal government and wealth creation through hard work. That is everything the left despite so I am right wing by definition.
The fact you say 'the left' as if they only have one set ideology shows how much you don't know about politics.

The left is FAR more varied in stances than the right wing, you joker.
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That's entirely different to getting free healthcare from everybody's taxes when you don't believe in it. Capitalism is what we run off, socialism is not. Basically capitalism > socialism massively. You ever heard of private health care? Using socialism directly contradicts her view that people should make their own way in life LOL. Nothing you've said directly contradicts anything I've said. You could basically only call me a 'champagne socialist' by your logic, and even that is weak.

Apples and oranges mate. As you're left wing, I'm quite disappointed in how much you missed the mark.
What are you on about?

An anarcho capitalist can use the nhs as that is the system they operate in, just as a communist can buy nikes because that is the system they operate in.

IE, it would be cutting off your nose to spite your face if you didn’t believe in the nhs so refused to go there- even if you don’t think it’s the most efficient system you may as well use it. For most people there’s no alternative because private is more expensive (and they believe that’s the case because the nhs is a state subsidised monopoly)
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(Original post by Davij038)
What are you on about?

An anarcho capitalist can use the nhs as that is the system they operate in, just as a communist can buy nikes because that is the system they operate in.

IE, it would be cutting off your nose to spite your face if you didn’t believe in the nhs so refused to go there- even if you don’t think it’s the most efficient system you may as well use it. For most people there’s no alternative because private is more expensive (and they believe that’s the case because the nhs is a state subsidised monopoly)
The NHS is socialism LMFAO. Jesus Christ are you sure you're left wing? Yes, there's no other option because capitalism makes it so. So therefore welfare is necessary and they have proved it so. CONTRADICTED.
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(Original post by Davij038)
What are you on about?

An anarcho capitalist can use the nhs as that is the system they operate in, just as a communist can buy nikes because that is the system they operate in.

IE, it would be cutting off your nose to spite your face if you didn’t believe in the nhs so refused to go there- even if you don’t think it’s the most efficient system you may as well use it. For most people there’s no alternative because private is more expensive (and they believe that’s the case because the nhs is a state subsidised monopoly)
Also why are you talking about anarcho capitalists? I'm talking about what she said. She said she doesn't believe in the state helping people out in times of need pretty much. That's what I'm arguing against.

So she should take her a** get a high paying job and save up for private if she doesn't want state help. Capitalism = everybody for themselves. We're in a capitalist state. So why isn't she living as a capitalist? You're actually blaming the NHS for that? What kind of f*cking left winger are you? If you can't see the double standards I feel sorry for your intellect. Deeply.

And I must stress, the Tory party voted against the NHS formation 22 times. But no, this capitalist (if she uses the NHS) on TSR isn't contradictory to their beliefs at all!
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(Original post by FailedMyMocks)
It doesn't matter. The world is going to be run by global corporations soon. Nothing we can do about it.
Soon? It already happened.

There is a resistance movement though on both the far left and ‘far right’
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Soon? It already happened.

There is a resistance movement though on both the far left and ‘far right’
What resistance movements? This is the evolution of capitalism
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The NHS is socialism LMFAO. Jesus Christ are you sure you're left wing? Yes, there's no other option because capitalism makes it so. So therefore welfare is necessary and they have proved it so. CONTRADICTED.
No I’m just a economically left wing person who used to be economically right wing so unlike you actually understands what they’re arguing even if I disagree with it.

imagine you’re a piece of **** capitalist.

The stste is offering you something which you paid for out if your taxes, why on earth wouldn’t you use it, even if you thought it was crap if it saves you money?

Imagine if the nhs got sold and the government offered everyone 30k, wouldn’t you take the money or would you refuse it and stand by your principles?
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What resistance movements? This is the evolution of capitalism
The so called ‘alt right’ mainly people like Le Pen, Orban, Bannon- even people in the far left like Corbyn and Melenchon
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The so called ‘alt right’ mainly people like Le Pen, Orban, Bannon- even people in the far left like Corbyn and Melenchon
Thanks for letting me know.

Have you read the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein?
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(Original post by FailedMyMocks)
Thanks for letting me know.

Have you read the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein?
No, i might do though, it sounds interesting. I liked Owen Jones ‘Establishment’ - even though it made a few really dumb obvious assumptions.
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What I am is dependent entirely on who I'm in the room with. Die-hard American conservative? Total liberal dink.
Die-hard Londoner liberal? Right wing enough to be a monster.
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I'm right wing to a certain extent, what are you?
*Disclaimer* just because you are 'right wing' or 'left wing' It doesn't determine what your opinions are. (However it does imply certain views.)
Personally, I'm more of a striker
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Definitely left wing.
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No, i might do though, it sounds interesting. I liked Owen Jones ‘Establishment’ - even though it made a few really dumb obvious assumptions.
Yeah I've got that on my bookshelf too, unread. So what are your political views?

I don't know where I stand on a lot of issues. But I definitely lean more left.
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/re...t0=43&prag=100
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(Original post by FailedMyMocks)
Yeah I've got that on my bookshelf too, unread. So what are your political views?

I don't know where I stand on a lot of issues. But I definitely lean more left.
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/re...3&prag=100
Centre left economic views
ultra conservative social views


I’m a big fan of the French Front Nationale

I’ve gone on s hell of a political journey and over the last ten years have changed my mind about almost everything.

On that poliscskes thing I got fatherland family revolution which is apparently the Scottish flag. I prefer the 8 values political compsss
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