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Centrist.

You can't make me pick a side. Deal with it.
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If you're going to be "that guy", maybe try learning about market socialism rather than labouring under the misapprehension that socialism = communism :yy:
Market socialism, crikey... if the aim of the system is to maintain a market of commodities for exchange, it's just a flavour of capitalism! And no, of course, socialism =/= communism, else there wouldn't be 2 words. Socialism is often categorised as the lower phase of communism (from Lenin's "State and Revolution", I think), firmly on its way to abolishing capitalism but unfortunately still stuck with many of its trappings - I'll grant your "market socialism" point if that's what you meant. Either way, my point still stands - "capitalism with socialism" is as oxymoronic as "night with the sun out."
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(Original post by ryan2000)
I’d honestly say I’m bang in the middle. If I had to though, I would lean slightly left
This is literally impossible - the 'left/right wing' principle is only an economic scale, not a social one. Social policy can be enacted by either the left or right, it's just that those on the left tend to enact more 'socially liberal' policy.

As to why it's impossible to be in the middle - well, that's because of the vast difference in economic principles between left and right. The left favour government intervention, higher taxes, and tariffs, whereas the right favour free market, lower taxes, and less government intervention.

Thus, it's impossible to sit 'bang in the middle'.
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I’m more libertarian. But I lean to the right.

For me the left has a tendency of viewing the world too much as the big vs the small and the only way to improve the world is the equalise everything.

But it really depends on the issue and I could have radically different views not consistent with an established bias. Economically though I’m more right than left
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(Original post by Notoriety)
Centrist.

You can't make me pick a side. Deal with it.
Best way to be
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(Original post by yr12student)
This is literally impossible - the 'left/right wing' principle is only an economic scale, not a social one. Social policy can be enacted by either the left or right, it's just that those on the left tend to enact more 'socially liberal' policy.

As to why it's impossible to be in the middle - well, that's because of the vast difference in economic principles between left and right. The left favour government intervention, higher taxes, and tariffs, whereas the right favour free market, lower taxes, and less government intervention.

Thus, it's impossible to sit 'bang in the middle'.
Yea but I have right wing viewpoints and left wing viewpoints. E.g I believe in free healthcare, education etc etc but I also believe that people who work hard should be rewarded - so I don’t agree with higher taxes. Hence why I said I’m in the middle
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(Original post by ErinaNakiri78)
share your opinions i'm curious. (btw i am right wing so you can ask me anything ).
More or less bang on centre.

Social values are very far left, whereas my stance on economics is further to the right (although I don’t know too much to do with the economy).
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(Original post by ryan2000)
Yea but I have right wing viewpoints and left wing viewpoints. E.g I believe in free healthcare, education etc etc but I also believe that people who work hard should be rewarded - so I don’t agree with higher taxes. Hence why I said I’m in the middle
I would argue you're liberal - which faces the common misconception of being 'centrist'. In actual fact, liberalism is a centre-right ideology, so you are centre-right.

Hope this clears things up.
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What does 'socially left wing' mean?
As in, I don't give a sh*t what you as an individual want to do with your life. If you want to become a postitute, fine by me. If you want to snort coke, fine by me. If you want to watch porn, fine by me. If you want to be gay, trans whatever, fine by me. As long as you're not hurting anyone, I don't care what you want to do with your life, as long as taxpayers don't have to foot the bill for your actions.
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(Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
Socially very left wing, although, economically I'd say I'm quite right wing. Guess that makes me center, maybe slightly more left or slightly more right depending on whether you think social policies are more important or economic.
Polar opposites to you, in this case I think you’re a ‘third way’ centrist and I’m a ‘third positionist’ .
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Idk I hate both sides with a passion
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(Original post by Notoriety)
Centrist.

You can't make me pick a side. Deal with it.
I wasn't making you pick a side, I was simply asking for people's opinions. Deal with it.
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Depends on the issue...

1. Anyone who generally describes themselves as left wing or right wing is probably a muppet. Do you have no ability to independently think and analyze issues for yourself and must resort to the standard left/right opinion on every topic?
2. Being either right or left fuels polarization and increases dogma and groupthink.
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Drumstick.
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(Original post by yudothis)
Depends on the issue...

1. Anyone who generally describes themselves as left wing or right wing is probably a muppet. Do you have no ability to independently think and analyze issues for yourself and must resort to the standard left/right opinion on every topic?
2. Being either right or left fuels polarization and increases dogma and groupthink.
This is a ridiculous opinion, and exactly why I hate the right/left dichotomy. How can you assert that your version of "centrism" or whatever you may wish to call it, which is only "central" in this reality we live in and is completely subjective and constructed to fit it, is better than any other political position? Let me introduce you to the "fallacy of the golden middle" - just because two positions exist, and in this case just because they are labelled as opposite, does not mean that the "truth" or "best outcome" lies in some arbitrary "middle." Neither does it mean that only centrists can think independently, or that all people who identify with a wing of politics are automatically calling from some pool of predetermined standard positions. Au contraire - it is often "enlightened centrists" who will reach for the "bOtH sIdEz R dUmB" defence and offer no concrete alternative.
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Left, not too left...but left. Not like Jeremy Corbyn LUL . I am because the people with labour work deserve to get their welfares and public services paid for them. And its just humane tbh
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This is a ridiculous opinion, and exactly why I hate the right/left dichotomy. How can you assert that your version of "centrism" or whatever you may wish to call it, which is only "central" in this reality we live in and is completely subjective and constructed to fit it, is better than any other political position? Let me introduce you to the "fallacy of the golden middle" - just because two positions exist, and in this case just because they are labelled as opposite, does not mean that the "truth" or "best outcome" lies in some arbitrary "middle." Neither does it mean that only centrists can think independently, or that all people who identify with a wing of politics are automatically calling from some pool of predetermined standard positions. Au contraire - it is often "enlightened centrists" who will reach for the "bOtH sIdEz R dUmB" defence and offer no concrete alternative.
You didn't understand what I wrote - I am very much left or right - it just depends on the issue. I never said that for a specific topic the middle ground is best. I said that people who are left because "they are left/right" and don't ever question dogma, are muppets.

Seems like you have a pre-conceived notion on this topic and didn't bother to actually read my post thoroughly.
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(Original post by yudothis)
You didn't understand what I wrote - I am very much left or right - it just depends on the issue. I never said that for a specific topic the middle ground is best. I said that people who are left because "they are left/right" and don't ever question dogma, are muppets.

Seems like you have a pre-conceived notion on this topic and didn't bother to actually read my post thoroughly.
My apologies for misreading your point.
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(Original post by plklupu)
My apologies for misreading your point.
No worries, not many apologize, kudos.
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When it comes to this question, I am VERY right wing. I believe in small government and low taxes. People who make money should get to keep that money and not give it to others by force. The government should STAY OUT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'm willing to discuss any political points with anyone that cares enough to ask me.
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