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    Just in-case anyone is confused, here's a re-cap:
    Saturday: McDonnell - We will honour the referendum result Sunday am: Corby - We will vote for a second referendum Sunday pm: McClusky - We want a 2nd referendum without remain option on the ballot Tuesday am: Kier Starmer - We will keep the option of remain on the ballot paper open. Tuesday pm: Len McClusky's deputy - Starmer was wrong and that any public vote on the terms of departure rather than the idea of remaining in the EU.
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    Summarising .....Labour will listen to anything or anybody if it results in attracting new support and voters . The details and nitty gritty are all up in the air at the moment depending on which Labour politician you speak to . It's a fluid environment based on damage limitation and by that I mean they know how difficult it is for Theresa May and her team to achieve a good deal when faced with the prospect of doing battle with the wishes of 27 member states . Ultimately , everyone is desperately trying not to rule anything out at this stage , purely for long term political gain.
    Those who want a second referendum are in the main remoaners who see it as a fresh opportunity to get what they desperately wish for and in so doing prefer to ignore the original but officially binding referendum.
    Referendums don't come in twos and threes ....until you get the decision you want .
    It's a simple point that many in this country fail to grasp .
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    During event intended to decide party policy different members of said party express their own opinions.


    In comparison to the Tory Party most of whomm are in open revolt against their own policy this seems rather civil.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    During event intended to decide party policy different members of said party express their own opinions.


    In comparison to the Tory Party most of whomm are in open revolt against their own policy this seems rather civil.
    That's nice. Where do the party stand then?
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    (Original post by Mister Fantastic)
    That's nice. Where do the party stand then?
    To quote an old Coronation Street character 'I don't really know'.
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    In light of recent developments, very few on the fence first time around, over 20% of the electorate, will have decided they should have voted leave. Avoiding a remain option will alienate them all once again.
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    (Original post by Johnny English)
    Summarising .....Labour will listen to anything or anybody if it results in attracting new support and voters . The details and nitty gritty are all up in the air at the moment depending on which Labour politician you speak to . It's a fluid environment based on damage limitation and by that I mean they know how difficult it is for Theresa May and her team to achieve a good deal when faced with the prospect of doing battle with the wishes of 27 member states . Ultimately , everyone is desperately trying not to rule anything out at this stage , purely for long term political gain.
    Those who want a second referendum are in the main remoaners who see it as a fresh opportunity to get what they desperately wish for and in so doing prefer to ignore the original but officially binding referendum.
    Referendums don't come in twos and threes ....until you get the decision you want .
    It's a simple point that many in this country fail to grasp .
    Er... unofficially binding btw. It was an advisory referendum. Brexit fantasy no. 6 and counting.
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    I think the press and commentators read too much into this. The democratic movement is about listening to concerns of members / voters and amending policy accordingly. Conference is the method Labour uses for defining and shaping policy. What you have written is that process in action. Of course that doesn't prevent high profile figures from advertising their personal views but I think it fair to say that Labour now has a position on Brexit even if it is 2 years too late. Last week I could't have told you any policy Labour had towards Brexit which given its position as opposition party is pretty worrying. Just what have they been doing during one of the most critial times in the UKs history? They certainly don't appear to have been holding the government to account.
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    This is why so many Labour supporters are confused. The MP's have no consenus. Whether someone voted Remain or Leave, to have another EU Referendum undermines the national democratic voting system. The will of the people by Law.
    Those who voted Remain wouldnt like it one bit if they had won by a small margin and Leavers kept insisting everyday for at least the next couple of years for a 2nd Referendum until they get the result they want.
    This is just a ploy by Corby and Remain MP's as a ruse to get into power. He has no repsect for a democratic vote and he blows with the wind on popularity policies, agreeing to whatever will get Labour into power.
 
 
 
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