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Yeah that’s how the score is expressed for everyone else too. I’d love to know the mechanics of it, I assume it’s based on a static cohort and doesn’t change with each new test taker so I wonder how many grains of salt to take it with. Seems like a lot more people get in the top decile than you’d expect.
Yeah, it’s all a bit ambiguous. I’m not entirely fussed as to what % I do better than. Would rather know my actual %. I guess that information will never be available.

This is my first time applying so I wasn’t sure what to expect. Just a little confused at some of the comments from people that claim they got X% in a certain test.
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I just applied on the tsp programme. Has anyone already done the stage 1 tests?
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I'm the same, but I'd happily take an EO role too.
whats an EO role?
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sorry last thing

does anyone know who their test provider is?

BTW good luck to all
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Yes it is. Candidate 2 met the minimum standard on all tests. Candidate 1 didn't.
Candidate 1 did too, prior to them raising the SJT.
Once they raise the SJT the have to be careful because candidate 1 has the better test scores than candidate 2 but candidate 2 makes it through.
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Is the level of maths for the numerical test the standard GCSE level? Thank you!
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Candidate 1 did too, prior to them raising the SJT.
Once they raise the SJT the have to be careful because candidate 1 has the better test scores than candidate 2 but candidate 2 makes it through.
Because candidate 2 met the minimum standard. It's not about who's scores are better. It's a question of fact. Did candidate 1 meet the required standard in every test? No.

When you're doing the course, if you fail an exam, saying "but I got 100% in all the others" won't make a blind bit of difference.
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Hi all, second time applying this year, so fingers crossed on getting a little farther through the process. I'm sure this has been asked before but how do the HMRC have the capacity to hire 180 people onto the TSP every year? I understand that these people are shared between the centres outlined in the advert.

I guess my questions are, does the programme have a high drop out rate and/or a high failure rate on the exams, or is it just that HMRC are expanding and/or have a high number of retirees at this grade?

Hope the online tests are going ok for you all!
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Because candidate 2 met the minimum standard. It's not about who's scores are better. It's a question of fact. Did candidate 1 meet the required standard in every test? No.

When you're doing the course, if you fail an exam, saying "but I got 100% in all the others" won't make a blind bit of difference.
When doing the course they don’t raise the minimum standard on the exams to manage recruitment numbers...
And recruitment on merit... is about getting the best person for the job... so therefore the person with the better scores....
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whats an EO role?
Executive Officer. It's the grade in the Civil Service, so how senior you are, and more importantly for most people how much they're paid.

(AA/AO, EO, HEO, SEO, Grade 7, Grade 6, ...)
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I don’t understand how they can give % scores so early on. If you do the tests now you could score better than 65% of other people, but the more people who do the tests, that could actually end up equivalent to say better than 50%... so technically you’re better off doing the tests early on?
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I don’t understand how they can give % scores so early on. If you do the tests now you could score better than 65% of other people, but the more people who do the tests, that could actually end up equivalent to say better than 50%... so technically you’re better off doing the tests early on?
I’m pretty sure it’s based on a static (past) cohort.
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I don’t understand how they can give % scores so early on. If you do the tests now you could score better than 65% of other people, but the more people who do the tests, that could actually end up equivalent to say better than 50%... so technically you’re better off doing the tests early on?
No, that would be ridiculous. You're measured against the results of a representative group of people, e.g. civil servants of an equivalent grade.
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Random question, When you complete the application form, the qualification history part, obvisously you have to put in your degree, but do you have to put in all the rest? Like A-Levels and GSCE's and all that shizzle. It doesnt ask for anything else in the job description but seams odd to just put in Degree?
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Random question, When you complete the application form, the qualification history part, obvisously you have to put in your degree, but do you have to put in all the rest? Like A-Levels and GSCE's and all that shizzle. It doesnt ask for anything else in the job description but seams odd to just put in Degree?
I put everything else in, just to be sure, got through to the tests so it can't have been that wrong.
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No, that would be ridiculous. You're measured against the results of a representative group of people, e.g. civil servants of an equivalent grade.
Ohhh... that would make more sense!
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those of you who have done the numerical and verbal tests how hard were they?

I mean, for the numerical, is it just mental maths or is it more finance related?

as for the verbal, is it really complicated texts?

also i heard that theres no time limit on any of these tests (including SJT)

is that true????
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those of you who have done the numerical and verbal tests how hard were they?

I mean, for the numerical, is it just mental maths or is it more finance related?

as for the verbal, is it really complicated texts?

also i heard that theres no time limit on any of these tests (including SJT)

is that true????
for the verbal it isnt long texts, and for numerical it is data analysis, for which you will need a calculator so not really mental maths. though as they aren't timed just work through them slowly, it took me a while but I think the scores I got were good
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I completed all my tests in one go yesterday: Lit, Num & SJT. After the SJT all I've had on my dashboard is this: Civil Service Judgement Test awaiting results Thank you for completing the test. Your results are currently being processed and will be updated shortly.
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Last year the bench mark for the SJT was 60.

Fingers crossed it’s lower this year!
I hate the SJT test its what got me last year... I scored above 90 for the Verbal and Numerical but ended up getting 40 for the SJT..

Do you have any advice on how i could improve. The available SJT tests online are nothing like the the civil service ones
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