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how likely are you to get a higher degree appenticeship?
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Hi Alonrous

Good question, but not a straight forward answer.

Higher and degree apprenticeships are fast becoming a real alternative to university however the demand for them is higher than the amount there are making them incredibly competitive.

We are slowly seeing more and more apprenticeships at levels 4, 5 and 6 on the Find and Apprenticeship website and hopefully this will continue.

It depends really on the industry you want to get a higher and degree apprenticeship in and can also depend on where you live as to how many opportunities there are. It will depend on your level 3 qualifications as well as the application form you submit.

If anyone is finding it difficult to find or get onto a higher/degree apprenticeship my advice would be:

- Think about starting at a lower level and working your way up through the apprenticeship with the same employer
- Think about having a backup plan just in case you don't find an apprenticeship such as a place at university
- If you are not seeing vacancies you want to apply for on Find an Apprenticeship try going to employer website directly that you would like to work for and see what training/apprenticeship schemes they have on their website.

I hope this helps, if there is anything else I can do to help please don't hesitate to get back to me.

Thanks - Sophie.
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If anyone is finding it difficult to find or get onto a higher/degree apprenticeship my advice would be:

- Think about starting at a lower level and working your way up through the apprenticeship with the same employer


Thanks - Sophie.
That's exactly what I did and speaking from experience, I believe that is the best option. After completing my A-Levels, degree-level apprenticeships were hard to come by and was recommended to start from Level 3 and work my way up. It allows you to build a reputation with your employer and makes you understand the amount of effort you need to put into an apprenticeship.
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Hello again

If i were to start from level 3 how do i get towards a higher degree apprenticeship?Building a reputation and hard work have been mentioned but how does the process work when starting from level 3?
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Hello again

If i were to start from level 3 how do i get towards a higher degree apprenticeship?Building a reputation and hard work have been mentioned but how does the process work when starting from level 3?
Hi there,

A lot of employers will need you to have experience in the industry before moving you up to higher levels so starting at level 3 isn't a bad way to do this. You will start on the level 3 qualification and once you have completed this they will re-enrol you as an apprentice onto a level 4 qualification and so on. If they have the availability to do so they will hopefully fund you up to level 6.

When looking at vacancies on Find An Apprenticeship there is a section for progression on completion. This will state whether or not the employer is likely to progress you onto the level 4 or the chances of being offered a permanent position with the company.

For some jobs the employer will stop you at level 3 either because they don't require a higher level qualification or it might be that there are no higher level apprenticeship qualifications available in that sector. To find out the apprenticeships that are available and the levels they go up to check out the following PDF - https://bit.ly/2GoBPV0

Please don't hesitate to come back to me if you have any further questions.

Sophie.
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Hello Sophie

I've been looking at the "find an apprenticeship" website and ive noticed a lack of apprenticeship.Is there a peak moment when there are more apprenticeships avaliable
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Hello Sophie

I've been looking at the "find an apprenticeship" website and ive noticed a lack of apprenticeship.Is there a peak moment when there are more apprenticeships avaliable
Hi there,

What type of apprenticeship is it that you're looking for if you don't mind me asking?

If employers are targeting school leavers or college leavers they will tend to advertise their vacancies over the summer months. For more support it would be great if you could send me a PM with where you live too so I can take a look too.

Thanks,

Sophie.
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National Careers Service Hi, would I be able to do a degree apprenticeship after completing a Level 4 apprenticeship.

I am currently undergoing my level 4 data analyst apprenticeship, however I want to move onto a level 6 and maybe specialise in cyber security instead?
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National Careers Service Hi, would I be able to do a degree apprenticeship after completing a Level 4 apprenticeship.

I am currently undergoing my level 4 data analyst apprenticeship, however I want to move onto a level 6 and maybe specialise in cyber security instead?
Hi bugzee_it

Thanks for your question.

It's certainly a possibility either with your current employer or through a new one.

The thing to bear in mind is that not all apprenticeships go up to level 6 which is the degree. For Cyber Security apprenticeships, employers stop at level 4 (at the moment). New degree level apprenticeships are being created all of the time so we may see levels 5 and 6 for this apprenticeship in the future.

I.T based apprenticeships that go up to level 5/6 are:

- Digital and Technology Solutions Professional
- Data Science
- Digital Marketing

My advice would be to speak with your current employer to discuss potential progression within your current apprenticeship to see what they can offer you at levels 5 and 6.

I hope this helps, if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to get back in touch.

Thanks - Sophie.

Just a quick update from me - it looks like the level 6 for cyber security has just recently been approved for delivery which is great news you can find out more here - https://www.instituteforapprenticesh...sional-degree/


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National Careers Service Hi, would I be able to do a degree apprenticeship after completing a Level 4 apprenticeship.

I am currently undergoing my level 4 data analyst apprenticeship, however I want to move onto a level 6 and maybe specialise in cyber security instead?
bugzee_it - if you're interested in a level 6 apprenticeship in cyber security, then you should definitely consider the scheme we offer here at the National Cyber Security Centre.

We're currently taking applications for apprentices to start in September 2019, so this may fit with your current L4 apprenticeship. To find out more head on over to our jobs page; applications close on Friday 2nd November (ignore the typo that states October 8th). We've also published an article on the scheme, in which current apprentices talk about their experiences - check out https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/job...ity-apprentice

Entry requirements are 3 ‘A’ Levels in any subject at grade C or above (or equivalent); the best source for determining what may or may not be 'equivalent' to the A-Level requirement is to call our recruitment team. (There are so many different qualifications and personal circumstances that may fit under the heading of 'equivalent' that it's best for individuals to discuss their particular case in confidence with one of the team, rather than on a public forum such as TSR).

Email: [email protected]

Phone: 0845 366 5567 (our lines are open Monday to Friday from 9am until 5.30pm)

You can do this before beginning an application, or if you hit issues during the application itself. There's a pretty good help centre available, and some application guidance, plus help text during the application itself.

Good luck if you decide to apply! Image
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National Careers Service If i enrol on a higher apprenticeship with a company, is it possible to progress to a degree level apprenticeship with the same company or be offered a job? Also what are the chances of getting into a higher apprenticeship? Is it the same, less or harder than a degree apprenticeship?
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National Careers Service If i enrol on a higher apprenticeship with a company, is it possible to progress to a degree level apprenticeship with the same company or be offered a job? Also what are the chances of getting into a higher apprenticeship? Is it the same, less or harder than a degree apprenticeship?
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Hi MR52

Thanks for the tag!

It is possible to go from higher to degree with the same company, however it will depend on the type of apprenticeship you are doing and if this is being offered at degree apprenticeship level. Some apprenticeship qualifications stop at levels 4 and 5 either because the level 6 hasn't been developed or is currently in development or because they don't require you to be qualifed higher than that.

When you apply for higher apprenticeships on Find An Apprenticeship, there is a section for progression which usually tells you if you can progress to the next level of qualification or if you will be offfered a permenent position at the end.

Higher and degree apprenticeships are very compeitive, there are fewer higher and degree apprenticeships than there are university courses meaning they are harder to come by. We are seeing increases in higher and degree opportunities all of the time however my advice would always be to look at back up options just in case such as a degree course at university. Sometimes it better to start on the advanced apprenticeship (level 3) and then progress onto the level 4, 5 and 6.

The degree apprenticeship is a degree so the difficulty level is the same. There are some key differences, mainly you will not be at university or a training provider full time so it will take longer to complete the qualifiation. However what you will have is a wealth of work experience and skills vital for the future and you will be getting a wage and funded through the qualification by the employer.

I hope that helps to answer your questions, please don't hesitate to get back to me if you do have more you would like to explore.

Thanks - Sophie.
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Hi Alonrous

Good question, but not a straight forward answer.

Higher and degree apprenticeships are fast becoming a real alternative to university however the demand for them is higher than the amount there are making them incredibly competitive.

We are slowly seeing more and more apprenticeships at levels 4, 5 and 6 on the Find and Apprenticeship website and hopefully this will continue.

It depends really on the industry you want to get a higher and degree apprenticeship in and can also depend on where you live as to how many opportunities there are. It will depend on your level 3 qualifications as well as the application form you submit.

If anyone is finding it difficult to find or get onto a higher/degree apprenticeship my advice would be:

- Think about starting at a lower level and working your way up through the apprenticeship with the same employer
- Think about having a backup plan just in case you don't find an apprenticeship such as a place at university
- If you are not seeing vacancies you want to apply for on Find an Apprenticeship try going to employer website directly that you would like to work for and see what training/apprenticeship schemes they have on their website.

I hope this helps, if there is anything else I can do to help please don't hesitate to get back to me.

Thanks - Sophie.
You know employer website are way more helpful than the find an apprenticeship website for engineering degree apprenticeships. Whenever I search on the find an apprenticeship website I only get 1 or 2 apprenticeships suitable but on employer websites the range is vast
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You know employer website are way more helpful than the find an apprenticeship website for engineering degree apprenticeships. Whenever I search on the find an apprenticeship website I only get 1 or 2 apprenticeships suitable but on employer websites the range is vast
You make a really good point here. Looking on Find an Apprenticeship as well as employer websites is the best way to approach your degree apprenticeship search.

Thanks - Sophie.
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Hi MR52

Thanks for the tag!

It is possible to go from higher to degree with the same company, however it will depend on the type of apprenticeship you are doing and if this is being offered at degree apprenticeship level. Some apprenticeship qualifications stop at levels 4 and 5 either because the level 6 hasn't been developed or is currently in development or because they don't require you to be qualifed higher than that.

When you apply for higher apprenticeships on Find An Apprenticeship, there is a section for progression which usually tells you if you can progress to the next level of qualification or if you will be offfered a permenent position at the end.

Higher and degree apprenticeships are very compeitive, there are fewer higher and degree apprenticeships than there are university courses meaning they are harder to come by. We are seeing increases in higher and degree opportunities all of the time however my advice would always be to look at back up options just in case such as a degree course at university. Sometimes it better to start on the advanced apprenticeship (level 3) and then progress onto the level 4, 5 and 6.

The degree apprenticeship is a degree so the difficulty level is the same. There are some key differences, mainly you will not be at university or a training provider full time so it will take longer to complete the qualifiation. However what you will have is a wealth of work experience and skills vital for the future and you will be getting a wage and funded through the qualification by the employer.

I hope that helps to answer your questions, please don't hesitate to get back to me if you do have more you would like to explore.

Thanks - Sophie.
Thank you for answering my question and if i have anything else, i will certainly get back to you!
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