V1425 – Abolition of Medical Bursaries Bill 2018

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V1425 – Abolition of Medical Bursaries Bill 2018, TSR Government


An Act abolishing bursaries, fifth year tuition fees and clinical placement fees, for Medical Students and replacing them with loans.

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1: Definitions
(1) Bursaries are grants given to medical students
(2) The Student Loans Company is the licensed provider of students Loans in the UK, responsible for provision and collection in line with statutory guidelines.
(3) For all the above, Health Education England (HEE) makes upfront payments for the training of its medics including clinical placements.

2: Implementation
(1) Medical students shall have the option to take out a tuition fee loan from the Student Loans Company to cover the total cost of their training for a period of two years.
(2) They shall not be required to pay back the fees, if they work in the NHS for at least 5 years

3: Enforcement
(1) Before the 5 year obligatory time period laid out in Section 2.2, then they shall be liable to pay back the loan.

4: Commencement, Extent and Short Title
(1) This Act extends to the England.
(2) The provisions of this Act come into force from 1st April 2019.
(3) This Act may be cited as Abolition of Medical Bursaries Bill 2018.

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Despite there being a shortage of Doctors, there is still a cap on the number of medical students. If medical students were to take out a loan to cover the total cost of their training, this would transfer the NHS’s immediate training costs to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills’ balance sheet. The cap on the number training each year could be lifted and the UK could increase the number of training places available to Medicine graduates (currently one of the greatest limitations to having British trained doctors).

At present, bursaries are provided to medical students on a means tested basis in order to assist them with cost of tuition for 5-6 year medicine degrees. What this bill does is withdraw NHS funding of these bursaries for the final two years (bringing medicine in line with other degrees) and require the applicant to either self-fund or attain a tuition fee loan from the Students Loan Company for the final two years of the Medicine degree.

What this bill then does is then set out a statutory limitation regarding the exemption of liability for paying the tuition fee loan by providing for a defined period of minimum employment within the NHS.

Costing..

The estimated cost of this bill as per the calculations above is £0.4bn which is the saving within the NHS budget, transferred as an unfunded liability to the Department of Business, Innovation and Skills.

The document above also outline new estimated NHS spending budgets as a result.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t?usp=drivesdk

Further Reading..
http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/fi...fordoctors.pdf

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Aye, a magnificent bill. 😏 😏 😏
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Where to start? Definitions 2 and 3 are unnecessary, it's questionable whether the first is needed
5 years is far too short, at this point those who go on to be GPs will have only just qualified and for other specialisations it's even longer.
Then we get the costings, or effective lack thereof as the link is broken, as for that matter is your "further reading" link, once again the government is struggling with the simple stuff.
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Both hyperlinks should now be working.
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(Original post by Connor27)
Aye.
Paying £400m (I can't say I fully follow the costing given there is no real explnation of it) to relieve those on a high income from fees just because they had the NHS pay for their specialisation?

So let's see how this costing works, we have the year 5 fees, year 6 fees, placement cost, and the total of the three (obvioulsy not added in the spreadsheet but externally and manually typed in) and then to get the cost for 6071 students we multiply this by 7500 (seemingly abitrarily and again, not using cell references) and then we have a random £892289000 floating over to the right because reasons
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Paying £400m (I can't say I fully follow the costing given there is no real explnation of it) to relieve those on a high income from fees just because they had the NHS pay for their specialisation?
As I understand it from the notes it seems to claim to be cost-neutral and we do need more doctors...

Perhaps the health secretary could elaborate on the costing figures? CountBrandenburg
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As I understand it from the notes it seems to claim to be cost-neutral and we do need more doctors...

Perhaps the health secretary could elaborate on the costing figures? CountBrandenburg
The notes state a cost of £400m as per calculations above that were not stated

In practice bursaries are abolished in name only with them being de facto maintained with the condition that you work for 5 years in the NHS, I.e. until you've specialised
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As I understand it from the notes it seems to claim to be cost-neutral and we do need more doctors...

Perhaps the health secretary could elaborate on the costing figures? CountBrandenburg
I’ll tag TCFactorsince the costing document should be his ( why it’s not there idk)
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With regards to the cost its the same as now.

Right now the NHS pays 400m out in bursaries, this bill changes the bursary to a normal student loan.

The effect of this bill is that a direct cost to the NHS is removed (allowing them to spend it on important things like cancer) while the department for business, innovation and skills takes on an unfunded liability as per all student loans.
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The document in the left column outlines that cost, in the right it simply lists the adjusted budgets as a result of this i believe.
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It's a nay from me.
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With regards to the cost its the same as now.

Right now the NHS pays 400m out in bursaries, this bill changes the bursary to a normal student loan.

The effect of this bill is that a direct cost to the NHS is removed (allowing them to spend it on important things like cancer) while the department for business, innovation and skills takes on an unfunded liability as per all student loans.
It changes it to a normal student loan that will in nearly every single instance be written as per 2(2), in other words you aren't really getting rid of the bursaries, just rebranding them
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One postal No has been added for seat 28 (GaelicBolshevik for Saoirse:3).
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