Should be change our membership to European Free Trade Association?

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Other_Owl
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This is Switzerland's, Norway, Iceland's and Lichtcien's membership of EU. Essentially we just down grade our membership.

This is what website says
"Organized to remove barriers to trade in industrial goods among themselves, but with each nation maintaining its own commercial policy toward countries outside the group". We have some "benefits".

We still have to keep the freedom of movement except we can more control this time, don't have to join the schegen agreement or the Euro.
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(Original post by Other_Owl)
This is Switzerland's, Norway, Iceland's and Lichtcien's membership of EU. Essentially we just down grade our membership.

This is what website says
"Organized to remove barriers to trade in industrial goods among themselves, but with each nation maintaining its own commercial policy toward countries outside the group". We have some "benefits".

We still have to keep the freedom of movement except we can more control this time, don't have to join the schegen agreement or the Euro.
The Chequars plan as I understand is this but without free movement and is not accepted by most MPs except May.

It seems the main sticking point now is the NI border.
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(Original post by ByEeek)
The Chequars plan as I understand is this but without free movement and is not accepted by most MPs except May.

It seems the main sticking point now is the NI border.
The proposed deal does not include single market membership so is harder than EFTA.

And to the OP the single answer is No. We cannot remain subject to the ECJ or part of the common commercial tarrif.
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We should take back all of ireland and then just leave the EU for good.
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(Original post by Other_Owl)
This is Switzerland's, Norway, Iceland's and Lichtcien's membership of EU. Essentially we just down grade our membership.

This is what website says
"Organized to remove barriers to trade in industrial goods among themselves, but with each nation maintaining its own commercial policy toward countries outside the group". We have some "benefits".

We still have to keep the freedom of movement except we can more control this time, don't have to join the schegen agreement or the Euro.
Joining the EEA is the same as staying in the EU but you have given up your voting rights.

The four main reasons for people voting leave were in the correct order.

Controlling migration
Making our own laws (sovereignty)
Enforcing our own laws (sovereignty)
Stopping sending the EU money.

EEA means you are still

subject to free movement
Subject to eu law
Subject to the ecj to enforce that law.
Still have to send the EU the same amount we do now but without the rebate so you end up sending more

It’s worse than being in the eu
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(Original post by paul514)
Joining the EEA is the same as staying in the EU but you have given up your voting rights.

The four main reasons for people voting leave were in the correct order.

Controlling migration
Making our own laws (sovereignty)
Enforcing our own laws (sovereignty)
Stopping sending the EU money.

EEA means you are still

subject to free movement
Subject to eu law
Subject to the ecj to enforce that law.
Still have to send the EU the same amount we do now but without the rebate so you end up sending more

It’s worse than being in the eu
That one is not strictly true. Norways's payments scaled up to the UK would only amount to about £3bn.

In addition on the law point, Norway is only obligated to enforce about 25% of directives vs about 60% for the UK now.

It's still bad but it's not as bad.
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... and the courts point is wrong as well. There is a separate EFTA Court (which is a slight misnomer, as it only relates to the EEA countries).
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(Original post by L i b)
... and the courts point is wrong as well. There is a separate EFTA Court (which is a slight misnomer, as it only relates to the EEA countries).
It’s essentially the same thing
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Doesn't work, the biggest advantage we can gain from brexit is the ability to strike our own trade deals, especially ones that include the finance sector, unlike what we get within the EU.
The very worst outcome for the UK is brexit lite, ie EFTA.
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