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Hi I am a very mature student and am contemplating applying to university as I want to change career from an actuary.

I am an ex Imperial grad (2:1) and when I did my A Levels many years ago I achieved 4As in Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry. They were strong As for Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics. I scored 90% plus (average) across A Level Pure Mathematics exams, 90% plus (average) across A Level Mechanics exams and 90% plus (average) across A Level Physics written exams.

My question is if I wanted to apply to the likes of Oxbridge should I list all my module results so they know I didn’t scrape them back then ?
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Hi I am a very mature student and am contemplating applying to university as I want to change career from an actuary.

I am an ex Imperial grad (2:1) and when I did my A Levels many years ago I achieved 4As in Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry. They were strong As for Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics. I scored 90% plus (average) across A Level Pure Mathematics exams, 90% plus (average) across A Level Mechanics exams and 90% plus (average) across A Level Physics written exams.

However I did get a B in Physics practical, B in Decision and Discrete Mathematics and a B in Chemistry synoptic.

My question is if I wanted to apply to the likes of Oxbridge should I list all my module results so they know I didn’t scrape them back then ?
Just give your final overall grade.
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Hi I am a very mature student and am contemplating applying to university as I want to change career from an actuary.

I am an ex Imperial grad (2:1) and when I did my A Levels many years ago I achieved 4As in Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry. They were strong As for Mathematics, Further Mathematics, Physics. I scored 90% plus (average) across A Level Pure Mathematics exams, 90% plus (average) across A Level Mechanics exams and 90% plus (average) across A Level Physics written exams.

However I did get a B in Physics practical, B in Decision and Discrete Mathematics and a B in Chemistry synoptic.

My question is if I wanted to apply to the likes of Oxbridge should I list all my module results so they know I didn’t scrape them back then ?
Your 4As are all you should declare. Universities aren't in the business of worrying if you "scraped" them or not. When did you sit them? If it was before 2010 you have the highest grades anyway.

But if you took them more than 3 years ago they might want to see evidence of recent study. When did you complete your undergrad?

See: https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....t-applications
http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/under...ature-students

How will you be funding your 2nd degree? And have you considered doing a masters instead?

What was your first degree, and what do you plan for your 2nd degree?

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Your 4As are all you should declare. Universities aren't in the business of worrying if you "scraped" them or not. When did you sit them? If it was before 2010 you have the highest grades anyway.

But if you took them more than 3 years ago they might want to see evidence of recent study. When did you complete your undergrad?

See: https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....t-applications
http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/under...ature-students

How will you be funding your 2nd degree? And have you considered doing a masters instead?

What was your first degree, and what do you plan for your 2nd degree?

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I completed my A Levels in 2001.
I completed my undergraduate degree at Imperial College in 2005 achieving 2:1 in Mathematics with Management (BSc).
Since graduation i have worked for several FTSE 100 financial services companies as an actuary and now run my own company (self-employed) working as an actuarial consultant for different clients.

For the sake of clarity my module results (i found them in my garage) were. This works out to be a mean average of 90% for
A Level Mathematics / Further Mathematics Pure Mathematics exams
A Level Mathematics / Further Mathematics Mechanics exams
A Level Physics written exams



I have looked at doing a post graduate Masters but it is not what i want to do.
I wish to study Mechanical Engineering. I am aware Cambridge is Engineering. This is general for a few years then specialise later. I would rather get an excellent fundamentals of engineering which would mean starting again.
I have been teaching myself A Level Mathematics and A Level Physics from textbooks and making my own notes etc and then practicing questions to consolidate my learning and extend myself. Obviously, having a full-time job does mean i have little time to do much else besides study and work.

I would be funding my second degree myself.
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I completed my A Levels in 2001.
I completed my undergraduate degree at Imperial College in 2005 achieving 2:1 in Mathematics with Management (BSc).
Since graduation i have worked for several FTSE 100 financial services companies as an actuary and now run my own company (self-employed) working as an actuarial consultant for different clients.

For the sake of clarity my module results (i found them in my garage) were. This works out to be a mean average of 90% for
A Level Mathematics / Further Mathematics Pure Mathematics exams
A Level Mathematics / Further Mathematics Mechanics exams
A Level Physics written exams

GCE Advanced Level
Chemistry A 07/2001
CH1 71/90 A
CH2 79/90 A
CH3 77/90 A
CH4 77/90 A
CH6 SYNOPTIC 86/120 B
CH8 Practical 110/120 A

Further Mathematics A 07/2001
Pure Mathematics 4 70/70 A
Statistics 3 61/70 A
Decision and Discrete Mathematics 59/70 B
Mechanics 2 67/70 A
Mechanics 3 65/70 A
Mechanics 4 66/70 A

Mathematics A 07/2001
Pure Mathematics 1 70/70 A
Pure Mathematics 2 67/70 A
Pure Mathematics 3 68/70 A
Statistics 1 64/70 A
Statistics 2 62/70 A
Mechanics 1 70/70 A

Physics A 07/2001
PH1 81/90 A
PH2 79/90 A
PH3 89/90 A
PH4 76/90 A
PH6 SYNOPTIC 118/120 A
PH8 Practical 90/120 B

I have looked at doing a post graduate Masters but it is not what i want to do.
I wish to study Mechanical Engineering. I am aware Cambridge is Engineering. This is general for a few years then specialise later. I would rather get an excellent fundamentals of engineering which would mean starting again.
I have been teaching myself A Level Mathematics and A Level Physics from textbooks and making my own notes etc and then practicing questions to consolidate my learning and extend myself. Obviously, having a full-time job does mean i have little time to do much else besides study and work.

I would be funding my second degree myself.
Ok, you may want to consider applying as an Affiliate Student, which skips you to year 2.
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....aduate-degrees

I suggest contacting a couple of the mature colleges for advice (i.e. Wolfson, St Edmunds, Lucy Cavendish (women-only), Hughes Hall
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....ature-students

All colleges accept mature students, and many accept affiliates, but the mature colleges are specialists at assessing the non-standard routes taken by applicants like you

Oh, and just be aware, Affiliates have to pay the college tuition fee on top of the university tuition fee.
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Ok, you may want to consider applying as an Affiliate Student, which skips you to year 2.
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....aduate-degrees

I suggest contacting a couple of the mature colleges for advice (i.e. Wolfson, St Edmunds, Lucy Cavendish (women-only), Hughes Hall
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....ature-students

All colleges accept mature students, and many accept affiliates, but the mature colleges are specialists at assessing the non-standard routes taken by applicants like you
Would you still advise not to list my module results ?
I wouldnt want to skip the first year because i wouldnt want to miss out any of the fundamentals they cover in the first year.
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Would you still advise not to list my module results ?
I wouldnt want to skip the first year because i wouldnt want to miss out any of the fundamentals they cover in the first year.
For Cambridge I wouldn't bother because you will need to include the full module details in the SAQ anyway.
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/saq

By the way, mature colleges have a 2nd, later, deadline available - 1st March 2019
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....t-applications

Also, an OU course may be sufficent to show "recent study".

Definetely discuss all this with a couple of the colleges.
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For Cambridge I wouldn't bother because you will need to include the full module details in the SAQ anyway.
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/saq

By the way, mature colleges have a 2nd, later, deadline available - 1st March 2019
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....t-applications

Also, an OU course may be sufficent to show "recent study".

Definetely discuss all this with a couple of the colleges.
Thank you.

What about listing the module results for Imperial ? This is because their Mech Eng course is very competitive 11:1 ratio I think.
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Thank you.

What about listing the module results for Imperial ? This is because their Mech Eng course is very competitive 11:1 ratio I think.
They are from so long ago they won't make much difference - you will be a strong applicant with AAAA (from before A*'s were available) and an Imperial-awarded 2:1 in Maths (from when a 2:1 was very good ).

Again, you need to check with them about any recent study requirements.
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161BMW - just a thought - maybe ask Imperial if doing the MAT would be helpful.
https://www.admissionstesting.org/fo...mat/about-mat/
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Would you still advise not to list my module results ?
I wouldnt want to skip the first year because i wouldnt want to miss out any of the fundamentals they cover in the first year.
The modules changes in 2005 so these 'modules' will very likely mean nothing to people reading your application. Two people have suggested that you don;t need to and I would remove them from your post as it might identify you.
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Also, a point that Christ's Admissions might be able to help with... do UK students studying a 2nd undergraduate degree at Cambridge (self-funded) also have to pay College Fees?
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Also, a point that Christ's Admissions might be able to help with... do UK students studying a 2nd undergraduate degree at Cambridge (self-funded) also have to pay College Fees?
I would imagine you have to pay for accomodation (college fees) just like other students.
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Also, a point that Christ's Admissions might be able to help with... do UK students studying a 2nd undergraduate degree at Cambridge (self-funded) also have to pay College Fees?
Not in Architecture, Medicine and Veterinary Medicine. They do in other subjects.
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I would imagine you have to pay for accomodation (college fees) just like other students.
No that's not what I'm referring to. Colleges charge accommodation fees (mostly rent), but they also charge College Tuition Fees. Home/EU first undergraduate degree students don't pay it, but International and Affiliate students do (except for the courses mentioned by Christ's above).

The College Fee varies but is roughly £8.5k pa. This is on *top* of rent (again varies but roughly £4k-£6k) and also on top of the University Tuition Fee of £9,250.

More info on College Tuition Fees here:
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....s/fees#college
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