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Can I ask are all Russell groups very similar in being targeted by employers as I have seen some schools such as UCL been placed a lot higher than Newcastle on uni ranking sites, however in the real world would these be classed as similar unis as they are Russell’s and would they more or less be equally reputable?
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Depends on the employer and their sector

Depends on the RG unis you're comparing

Your uni 'brand' will only ever get you through the initial stages of an application, so the impact of any discrepancies will be limited, and you shouldn't be relying on 'prestige' to do the work for you when building up your CV
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(Original post by JSC16)
Can I ask are all Russell groups very similar in being targeted by employers as I have seen some schools such as UCL been placed a lot higher than Newcastle on uni ranking sites, however in the real world would these be classed as similar unis as they are Russell’s and would they more or less be equally reputable?
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Depends on which employers you are talking about.

However, few people outside of TSR or universities probably know - or care - about the Russell Group.
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Depends on the employer and their sector

Depends on the RG unis you're comparing

Your uni 'brand' will only ever get you through the initial stages of an application, so the impact of any discrepancies will be limited, and you shouldn't be relying on 'prestige' to do the work for you when building up your CV
So if I was doing something like chemical engineering at Newcastle uni wouldn’t it make much of a difference to someone doing it at UCL provided we both have sufficient work experience ? Or is chemical engineering considered a lucrative course meaning it might look better for corporate jobs?
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Depends on the employer and their sector

Depends on the RG unis you're comparing

Your uni 'brand' will only ever get you through the initial stages of an application, so the impact of any discrepancies will be limited, and you shouldn't be relying on 'prestige' to do the work for you when building up your CV
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Depends on which employers you are talking about.

However, few people outside of TSR or universities probably know - or care - about the Russell Group.
I totally echo these comments. Plus, OP, do remember that companies are increasingly using 'university blind' applications, where the name of your university is removed from your application before consideration!
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So if I was doing something like chemical engineering at Newcastle uni wouldn’t it make much of a difference to someone doing it at UCL provided we both have sufficient work experience ? Or is chemical engineering considered a lucrative course meaning it might look better for corporate jobs?
Not my area of expertise - sorry

If you have a specific UCL vs Newcastle ChemEng question, it might be helpful if you post it in the relevant fora instead of accidentally starting an argument between sixth formers
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Depends on which employers you are talking about.

However, few people outside of TSR or universities probably know - or care - about the Russell Group.
So if you wanted to go into a high financial role or investment banking (for example) surely they would care then? Wouldn’t Russell group candidates be comparable or is it really about the societies and you as a person?
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When it comes down to it, a degree is a degree and you'll end up with a pretty similar outcome wherever you go. That being said, if you studied at somewhere like Durham as opposed to, say, Liverpool, I don't think it's unlikely that somebody might view you as smarter.

Honestly, though, I think any Russell Group university is highly regarded and you won't be set back by going to a lower ranking one.
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Not my area of expertise - sorry

If you have a specific UCL vs Newcastle ChemEng question, it might be helpful if you post it in the relevant fora instead of accidentally starting an argument between sixth formers
But what I’m saying is a UCL graduate has an equal chance a Newcastle graduate right? Uni will only play a very small role as both are considered good?
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When it comes down to it, a degree is a degree and you'll end up with a pretty similar outcome wherever you go. That being said, if you studied at somewhere like Durham as opposed to, say, Liverpool, I don't think it's unlikely that somebody might view you as smarter.

Honestly, though, I think any Russell Group university is highly regarded and you won't be set back by going to a lower ranking one.
That’s good I suppose it’s also based on the degree along with a good mark in it and relevant experience
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So if you wanted to go into a high financial role or investment banking (for example) surely they would care then? Wouldn’t Russell group candidates be comparable or is it really about the societies and you as a person?
I really don't know anything about those professions. However I would suggest that for a lot of the really high ranking universities - like for example Oxford, Cambridge, LSE - their Russell Group status is irrelevant to their prestige and rankings.
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That’s good I suppose it’s also based on the degree along with a good mark in it and relevant experience
From what I understand, yeah. Any degree from any Russell Group is going to be similar to its equivalent and you should be able to get yourself an industry year at most Russell Groups if that's something you're interested in.
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Not my area of expertise - sorry

If you have a specific UCL vs Newcastle ChemEng question, it might be helpful if you post it in the relevant fora instead of accidentally starting an argument between sixth formers
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Shhh! Already got my cup of tea ready!
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I really don't know anything about those professions. However I would suggest that for a lot of the really high ranking universities - like for example Oxford, Cambridge, LSE - their Russell Group status is irrelevant to their prestige and rankings.
Forget Oxbridge, places like LSE and Durham aren’t that much different to the likes of Newcastle Birmingham or any other Russell and id say that LSE is more prestigious due to its history, that’s it, but for world rankings most of the unis are in the top 200 world wide according to QS and to say there are endless unis, the ranking gap isn’t really that much different
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Not my area of expertise - sorry

If you have a specific UCL vs Newcastle ChemEng question, it might be helpful if you post it in the relevant fora instead of accidentally starting an argument between sixth formers
There is nothing to be argued about I’m trying to make a point that at the end of the day UCL is really no different to lower Russell’s unlike how it would with Oxbridge haha
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There is nothing to be argued about I’m trying to make a point that at the end of the day UCL is really no different to lower Russell’s unlike how it would with Oxbridge haha
So you started off this thread with a question about career prospects, and now you've progressed (within the space of 15 posts) to claim that you've 'made a point' about something (which you haven't, really). Right. Okay.
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So you started off this thread with a question about career prospects, and now you've progressed (within the space of 15 posts) to claim that you've 'made a point' about something (which you haven't, really). Right. Okay.
I’m “trying” to make a point in saying that Russell’s have a high reputation already and am wondering how job prospects would be that much different to those like UCL, if at all. What are your opinions to the differences between that of Newcastle and that of a “higher ranked uni” though they would both be Russell Groups?
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I’m “trying” to make a point in saying that Russell’s have a high reputation already and am wondering how job prospects would be that much different to those like UCL, if at all. What are your opinions to the differences between that of Newcastle and that of a “higher ranked uni” though they would both be Russell Groups?
That's not a point, that's a question. Learn the difference.
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That's not a point, that's a question. Learn the difference.
You really do not understand my what I’m saying and asking do you, where everyone else has given an adequate answer. You might as well save me some energy and do one.
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I’m “trying” to make a point in saying that Russell’s have a high reputation already and am wondering how job prospects would be that much different to those like UCL, if at all. What are your opinions to the differences between that of Newcastle and that of a “higher ranked uni” though they would both be Russell Groups?
No, the prospects are not the same. Look at Unistats

UCL
https://unistats.ac.uk/subjects/empl...eturnTo/Search

Newcastle
https://unistats.ac.uk/subjects/empl...eturnTo/Search

What is the most significant difference?
At Newcastle 60% of graduates are working in engineering. At UCL only 10% are.
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