Ex Polys, why are people looked down on so much?

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Please could someone explain WHY ex polys are looked down on despite some reaching higher than russell groups in the league table?

I go to Trent and the number of Uni Of Notts people who have refused to speak to me on a night out when I mention I go to Trent is unbelievable.

Why are people like this? It’s making me really upset and wanting to leave uni because I feel like my degree will be useless.
Some people are academic snobs. Just gotta ignore it and move on.
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They just want to feel superior. Probably just some deep rooted insecurity idk. What uni you went to barely matters when you start a job. Just ignore them x
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Why are people like this? It’s making me really upset and wanting to leave uni because I feel like my degree will be useless.
Hang on, weren't you confident about the superiority of NTU in the league tables just a line or two above? Why are you suddenly feeling sorry for yourself?
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Hang on, weren't you confident about the superiority of NTU in the league tables just a line or two above? Why are you suddenly feeling sorry for yourself?
Because when people make you feel **** about your uni, how else am I meant to feel?
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I go to Trent and the number of Uni Of Notts people who have refused to speak to me on a night out when I mention I go to Trent is unbelievable.

Why are people like this? It’s making me really upset and wanting to leave uni because I feel like my degree will be useless.
Because some people are eejits. You can ask one of them :poke: Realitysreflexx
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Because when people make you feel **** about your uni, how else am I meant to feel?
If you feel so confident in the accuracy of the league tables, you should gain faith from those alone. You have... numbers on your side! Surely numbers beat other people's prejudices?

Or are you only worried about the reputation/employment aspect?
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If you feel so confident in the accuracy of the league tables, you should gain faith from those alone. You have... numbers on your side! Surely numbers beat other people's prejudices?

Or are you only worried about the reputation/employment aspect?
More reputation/employment aspect, it just is quite upsetting when people don’t want to talk to you based on the uni you go to if you see where I’m coming from, which makes me feel like what I’m doing is pointless
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They legitimately won't talk to you?

Wow. What uttrer jebends.
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More reputation/employment aspect, it just is quite upsetting when people don’t want to talk to you based on the uni you go to if you see where I’m coming from, which makes me feel like what I’m doing is pointless
Tbf that's *****y behaviour, but it's unlikely to have a tangible long-term impact in your life. It's an unpleasant situation that you hopefully won't get into too often.

The employment bit is obviously more serious, because it has a material, long-term impact on your life, earnings, etc. Lots of people will snob ex-polys (with various degrees of justification) for low entry standards, easier courses, additional support that won't necessarily be found in the real world, etc., but some of these concerns obviously apply to other non-ex-poly universities as well. The best thing for you to do is reach out to employers in your targeted line of work and ask whether they care about your ex-poly status. That's all you need in the end of the day - the Notts people laughing at you won't be paying your salary.

Edit: I'm assuming that your question is motivated by the fear of being rejected by jobs and stuff instead of a desire to engage in a dispassionate debate about the merits of your ex-poly of choice. If you want the latter, post in Educational Debate.
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Those who go to ex-polies are not people.
Just what does that mean?

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Just what does that mean?

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The humanoids over at NTU crawl out of the sewers at night and abduct innocent freshers
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Please could someone explain WHY ex polys are looked down on despite some reaching higher than russell groups in the league table?

I go to Trent and the number of Uni Of Notts people who have refused to speak to me on a night out when I mention I go to Trent is unbelievable.

Why are people like this? It’s making me really upset and wanting to leave uni because I feel like my degree will be useless.
That's so stupid if they do that. Glancing outside Trent's campuses, they sure do like to flaunt their Guardian 2019 ranking of a 'top 20' university though, slightly misleading...

The thing is, it probably isn't down to your university being ex-poly but actually because it's the University of Nottingham's rival and being one half of two universities in the city means 'banter' and jokes towards each other do happen. UCL students like to joke about KCL being a supposed ex-poly too but it isn't.
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Because some people are eejits. You can ask one of them :poke: Realitysreflexx
Alot of people only talk to their friends on nights out, not really an issue in nottingham.....unless your boring, or maybe too drunk, of course there are some snobby kids at nottingham, but when you sit in the lunch hall at trent does everyone speak to you?

Where in life does everyone speak to you lmao. Grow up.
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Please could someone explain WHY ex polys are looked down on despite some reaching higher than russell groups in the league table?

I go to Trent and the number of Uni Of Notts people who have refused to speak to me on a night out when I mention I go to Trent is unbelievable.

Why are people like this? It’s making me really upset and wanting to leave uni because I feel like my degree will be useless.
I think - well I know - this deep seated bias is old. When polys were granted university status, it was felt that the concept of university was being cheapened. Polys were generally technical colleges where the more practical person could go. I think if you look at league tables you will see that some of the "old" universities are languishing well below some of the ex polys.

You go to Trent - and Nottingham Uni students are a bit RAH - bit like the posh school in town looking down on the state school. You aren't going to change them overnight if ever but just ignore them. Many of the departments at NTU are excellent - I believe Law is one of the best in the country. My son and daughter in law both went to NTU - both have done exceptionally well - son just completed a MSc and DIL has had stellar trajectory in teaching ( one of the youngest deputy head in the country)

You enjoy your university time - at the end of the day - as previous posters have said - no one will care where you got your degree from - they want to know that you have enjoyed it, achieved your maximum and are a well rounded and accepting individual.
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To be totally honest, judging the results you have achieved trent is likely the best you can do....if i had to go to an ex poly trent would be it.

ABB- UP Nottingham
CCC- SLIGHTLY BELOW TRENT

You haven't shown enough academic talent to get complacent now, focus on your work not where you doing it or employment. You need a good degree first.
Why the assumption that I didn’t achieve high enough to attend Uni of? I picked Trent over Uni Of for a reason
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Why the assumption that I didn’t achieve high enough to attend Uni of? I picked Trent over Uni Of for a reason
Yea ok....then why be worried about what uni of students think? And why try and talk to them when you clearly figures you "fit" better into the architecture of trent.
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I talk to them because I am a nice person. I am not a chav which I assume is what you think I am. I come from a middle class town in Greater London. I just want to know why I am being treated like less of a human because of the uni I attend? Imo it makes uni of students look bad
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if you ain't feeling the university you're attending at the moment, then the best thing to do would either drop out or transfer. if you're having doubts about NTU then that may also have an impact on your studies. I attend NTU and the facilities / resources / teaching is excellent. If you had the choice to choose UoN over NTU, why didn't you? It is clearly the better university. The Guardian University guide should be taken with a grain of salt because it is not that accurate.
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I talk to them because I am a nice person. I am not a chav which I assume is what you think I am. I come from a middle class town in Greater London. I just want to know why I am being treated like less of a human because of the uni I attend? Imo it makes uni of students look bad
Why are you looking down on chavs?
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